slow drivers

ILW

colino wrote: »

Well done all you drivers filling the gaps in our Police Force by enforcing your own rolling road blocks. If you had actually developed your driving skills since fluking your drivng test you would know that one of the tenets of good driving is ensuring you do not cause any other road user to accelerate. That is, change direction or speed because of your actions.
There are far too many people thinking we are still in the 50's and happy to meander down single carriage roads in their euroboxes blissfully unaware of the conga line of people behind them.

I tend to drive slowly in my soft top if the scenery is nice.

colino

Ah, that explains it. Your the gent cruising with the Pink Micra.

splishsplash

custardy wrote: »

If I drive at a speed I feel is appropriate
there is nothing to consider

Well, option 3 for you then :T

brat

colino wrote: »

Well done all you drivers filling the gaps in our Police Force by enforcing your own rolling road blocks. If you had actually developed your driving skills since fluking your drivng test you would know that one of the tenets of good driving is ensuring you do not cause any other road user to accelerate. That is, change direction or speed because of your actions.
There are far too many people thinking we are still in the 50's and happy to meander down single carriage roads in their euroboxes blissfully unaware of the conga line of people behind them.

You'll be at their age at some time, with a bit of luck. Perhaps you too will do the selfless thing and hang up your keys rather than hold up those who would dig a hole and throw you in it.

custardy

splishsplash wrote: »

Well, option 3 for you then :T

nope. Its called driving to the conditions
If Im at the speed I feel is safe and appropriate (and a good dollop of experience) Then I'm not going faster for anyone
theres no need to pull over for some loon. I might even be saving their or someone else's life

splishsplash

steve-L wrote: »

Especially when the queue includes artic's, caravans and bicycles!

However, everyone seems to be jumping on the OP for asking the question ???

In answer to the question....
1) There are a LOT of people on the roads that shouldn't be.
a) People who's Dr.s don't take away their license because it will kill them slowly
b) People who have been drinking
c) People with no driving license

b and c often drive in a accentuated SLOWNESS

People in (a*)... well they may be unable to process the information any faster. May be suffering episodes of unconsciousness for a second or so at a time.... but they don't give up their license as it is the end f their independence.

People driving too slowly can be just as dangerous as those driving too quickly.

Whether the person is driving too slowly or too quickly the main point is that they are dangerous and inconsiderate.

People who drive tractors etc. that act considerately are fine....

People who can't drive any quicker because of their reactions or illness - a different (more complex) matter.

However it is the consideration for other drivers be it 'I am going as fast as I want to and I will not be pushed into considering other drivers' OR the 'I can go faster so I will' tear-!!!! that matters.

Those who arrogantly don't care if they hold up traffic are just as big a hazard as those who drive too quickly!
They have an option to pull over..... they also have the option to consider if they really should be driving**!


*My father was driving for several years with Alzheimers and Parkinsons (and the meds) before the doctor finally pulled his license. We (family) were simply amazed he didn't kill anyone. On the other hand his Dr. knew once he did this he would go downhill fast..... One aspect was he drove VERY SLOWLY ... he would lose seconds and then come around but of I was driving at a reasonable speed he was still terrified because he couldn't process the information coming in. For example me doing 50 on the NSL to my mothers he would have me doing 40.... and the car would have been capable of doing 140 (i.e. stick this on a racetrack and I could easily have done 140 mph on that road knowing there were no pedestrians) but he was convinced we were travelling faster than the car could go (and in this case I was driving a road legal track car with the only difference being the tyres)

** My mother's eyesight in the dark is not what it could be. She drives VERY RARELY at night .... if she has to then she will pull over and let cars pass as she recognises this is HER inability

HOWEVER
The fact is (from observation) many of the people who drive 40 in a NSL are also the same people who THEN drive 30 through a town when it is NOT SAFE to do so. I had one yesterday.... followed for miles on NSL at 40 mph until I got to a 30 mph section through a village where the road was hazardous due to pedestrians

They then drive through the village faster than I would (by a good amount) and went through a amber going to red light on a pedestrian crossing until I lost sight of them.

5 minutes later having passed through the village with me driving at the NSL I caught them again doing 35-40 in NSL....

They are also the same people that brake on bends......
Not BEFORE bends but actually ON an BEND!

Either you are going too fast for your car in that bend in which case braking on the bend will merely make you exit the road*** OR your not.

***This excludes more advanced techniques best left to a track where you deliberately want to provoke understeer or oversteer!

I agree that there are many people who should probably not be driving on the roads. I think particularly, in isolated rural areas, where public transport is not available, being able to drive your car from A to B could be your only means of social contact. I think most people would be very slow to remove that lifeline from someone, and I would be in agreement wholeheartedly with people driving if at all possible.

I read recently about Kerry County Council (ROI) seeking 'Drink Drive Permits' for certain people. I think it's hilarious, but I have to say, I'm not entirely unsympathetic to the idea...

ILW

Why all the rush?
Life is for enjoying.

harz99

martinthebandit wrote: »

Coming home from work this afternoon I got stuck in the queue behind a slow driver, you know 45 ish maximum on a NSL road, and I got to wondering and would be grateful if any drivers who don't keep up to the speed limit when it is safe to do so would care to explain why they do it.

As far as I could see its either because;

1. They feel unsafe going any quicker; or
2. They never look in their mirrors so have no idea they are holding anyone else up; or
3. They have passed their driving test so now they can drive how they want without considering anyone else.

An I missing any other reason?

I have a suggestion for you - go by train then you'll never have to worry what speed other drivers on the road are doing:D.

SailorSam

My God is this thread still going, a bad tempted driver comes on to have a vent just because someone driving in front of him wouldn't be bullied into putting his foot down, and here we are 175 posts later and he's still complaining that he was the innocent party.

McCoy

"Bad tempted"!?

Anyway, I tend to be of the opinion that as long as you're driving legally then don't pay too much mind to people 'pushing you along' or becoming frustrated that you're not driving as fast as they would like.

You can't realistically be continually pulling in to let these supposed queues behind you past, nor should you as long as you're driving within the law.

As for words such as 'courtesy' being banded about with regard to letting people past, you could equally apply this to simply waiting patiently until an opportunity to safely overtake presents itself rather than expecting the person in front of you to take action to let you past.