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  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Marisco wrote: »
    But CSA 1 is still unfair when you compare it to CSA 2! With 2 only the NRP's income is taken into account, (leaving aside WTC etc) whether the NRPP is paying half the bills or not. The NRPP could be earning £1000 a week and it wouldn't matter, which is how it should be! I don't know why all 1 cases were not moved over when 2 came in. It's a ridiculous situation where there are two systems running parallel! Especially as CSA 1 one is so unfair.

    The fact that csa2 might be a better system than csa1 doesn't change the fact that it isn't totally unfair to assume that the nrpp will be expected to contribute something towards the household under csa1.

    I do agree, like most, that csa2 makes more sense, and that having both systems running together is ridiculous. I was only commenting on the fairness that nrpp being able to contribute towards the household was fair under csa1.
  • swingaloo
    swingaloo Posts: 3,461 Forumite
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    edited 26 January 2013 at 9:55PM
    I this its ludicrous if what you are saying is correct. Old rules seem mad.

    I dont know the circumstances of the two pwc but from whay you are saying the pwc could be working and have a partner that is working plus recieve money through csa. (2 incomes plus extras) leaving me and my partner who.both work with 2 wages minus csa deductions. Therefore our child is suffering because of my partners past. Surely this cant be right?

    It wouldn't matter if the other children's parents were millionaires.

    Both parents are responsible for the cost of rearing the children they produce.
    Not meaning to sound rude but your partner should have worked out before starting another family whether or not he could afford to have a third child knowing he already had 2 to support.

    'If' your child is suffering because your partner has to hand over money to the two ex parents then your partner clearly didn't do this.
  • I have sent you a PM :)
  • Didn't realise CSA rules changed, I don't think they should take into account anyone's income apart from the NRP's pay cheque!
  • kevin137
    kevin137 Posts: 1,509 Forumite
    Well either thats an option or me jumping on the band wagon switch to mainting seperate household. He can give me maintenance, and reduce his expenditure that way. Its an absolute joke.

    I know you are angry and upset by what is happening, but that really would not help you, it was my understanding that this confuses the matter even further...!

    What it would do is move your partners case to CSA2 which is much simpler and would be a straight 20% of his income for 2 children and have nothing to do with your income...

    However, you making a claim as if you had split, wether this is true or not, would move there case over to CSA2 and mean he would be deducted as 3 children which is 25%... Lovely, you think... BUT and there is always a BUT

    The change for his ex and the 2 children would be transitioned over 5 years, so could end up actually costing a whole heap more, as he would be paying as CSA1 for 2 children and CSA2 for 1 child and it gets very very confusing...!

    It really is not a good idea for him and you....

    You need to get the real issues addressed... And get a correct assessment...!
  • kevin137
    kevin137 Posts: 1,509 Forumite
    Going back right to the start though... You say you both live with a parent...

    I am assuming you pay rent...? What is the rent cost and is it via a rental agreement that the CSA have agreed to...???
  • I have sent you a PM :)

    Thanks for pm my battery died. And because im a newbie I can only send 1per hour.

    If I can figure how they have calculated his current assessment ill be able to work out if im better off declaring or not.

    Do you know what happens re our daughter is there a protected amount for her or is protectex only what you sent me?
  • Didn't realise CSA rules changed, I don't think they should take into account anyone's income apart from the NRP's pay cheque!

    That is my opinion too. Thanks:)
  • Kevin. I dont think they had calculated housing costs. We pay rent to my mother. Think ill get partner to ring next week and go through everything with them on phone. Thanks for your advise.

    Any help appreciated
  • shoe*diva79
    shoe*diva79 Posts: 1,356 Forumite
    Like Kevin said, if you were to split up, your partner would end up paying a lot more then now as his current cases wouldn't be moved to CSA2 straight away.

    Provide them with the information they are asking for so you get a correct assessment. The last thing you will want is another incorrect assessment resulting in arrears down the line which will cause more stress.

    Forget the other PWC. Just as you say you don't want to provide from your wages for other peoples kids, why should the new partner of the PWC cover the cost of rearing your husbands kids? Your husband chose to have multiple children with multiple women and children cost money. Both parents have to contribute.

    Just for the record, if your husband gives up work to avoid paying CM for his children then I hope he feels proud of himself. His poor kids.
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