Buying a house with tenant on Periodic Tenancy?

metropolitanlandlord

kanute 50. The reason the tenant changes gender so often is that we are talking about a woman and her son. Sometimes the woman is representative and sometimes the man.

Werdnal: Thank you again. You are right in saying I know little about being a landlord. I didn't want to be one but got caught, and that was what I was trying to caution Mike3 against when I first posted. The fact that we are almost certainly talking about my tenant is a pure fluke, and the story Mike3 has got (apparently from my tenant) is either a tall story or my tenant is also resident of another property which will serve his purpose equally well - and if he is I would like to know where that property is because I believe he (and his mother) is a social security claimant working a fraudulent claim - or even several fraudulent claims. He seems also to be good at paper forgery.

Additionally, if Mike3 is not also spinning a yarn about an auction on the 6th Feb. then my tenant has probably set him up to part with a large sum of money for a property that is not his to sell on the 6th Feb.

I wish Mike3 would come back and tell us more. It could be invaluable to me.

Mike3

Wow, I must say metropolitanlandlord I don't think were not talking about the same person. There is no woman involved only a father and son, I didn't pick up on the she bit. Forgive me but seeing the anagram of his name I was quick to reply. Some really useful points on here and I only have one more question - if the tenant lived in the house for 35 years but only became a tenant in 2007 (after previously owning the property) does he have a protected tenancy even though it states 6 months with one months notice either way on the tenancy. As stated I'm not going to kick him out but I'm asking for future and because this thread is picking up more interest and I suspect more of these problems will occur for others in the future.
Thanks all
Mike

Werdnal

But regardless of what is written in the Tenancy agreement, there is no such thing as "one month's notice either way" - notice requirements on an SPT are 1 month from the tenant, and notice seeking possession (not notice to end the tenancy) from the landlord of 2 months, followed by a court possession application if the tenant does not leave.

This has been covered in length in previous replies and the linked thread in GM's response above. Read again and do try to keep up ...

G_M

Werdnal wrote: »

But regardless of what is written in the Tenancy agreement, there is no such thing as "one month's notice either way" - notice requirements on an SPT are 1 month from the tenant, and notice seeking possession (not notice to end the tenancy) from the landlord of 2 months, followed by a court possession application if the tenant does not leave.

This has been covered in length in previous replies and the linked thread in GM's response above. Read again and do try to keep up ...

Keep up yourself werdnall!

1 month from the tenant...

is not what it says in my linked post!

(but I know you know that and are just using shorthand which is fine as it is pretty irrelevant to this thread anyway which is way past its sell-by date.... the basic advice is, and always has been, buy this property at your peril and make sure you know what you are doing.)

Which the OP don't!

Mike3

franklee wrote: »

No idea who is scamming who in this thread but metropolitanlandlord's tenant started out as a "she' and is now allegedly a man in his 60s called Albert. What's more Mike3 didn't notice the sex change. What an odd lot LOL.





Anyway thanks for wasting our time guys!

Apologies, didn't want to waste anyone's time I'm greatful for the advice you have offered and will report back as promised. As per my last post I only saw the anagram of the name and jumped on it, I missed the sex comment.
Anyhow I'm fairly confident I'm not buying from his tenants!

Werdnal

G_M wrote: »

Keep up yourself werdnall!

Beggin yer pardon sir (have we got a "tug-forelock" smilie ).

Tenant should give 1 full tenancy period!

However, in reply to Mike3's post, "1 month either way" that he quoted was the term I was attempting to correct, and for the purposes of my reply, I'm sure it would have got my point across.

However, as usual I bow to your greater knowledge and your intention to get things 100% correct and legal of course.

Werdnal

Mike3 wrote: »

Anyhow I'm fairly confident I'm not buying from his tenants!

Tend to think the majority of us here knew this all along :rotfl:

Mike3

Werdnall, the question hasn't been answered perhaps I'm not asking correctly. As he has been there before 1989, does this mean he has a protected tenancy. By that I mean he lived there before 89 but was the owner and not a tenant.
If you don't know its not a problem I will speak with sols tomorrow.
Mike

metropolitanlandlord

The only thing is - how do you know there is no woman? Is that just because Mr. Albert s (one letter missed out) has told you, or is there some other way you know? In my experience he will tell any lie that suits his purpose, and he may have two or more addresses.

When I first contacted you I told you I had a tenant and her son living in my house. Sometimes I talked about her and sometimes about him.

As you are not going to buy the house, would you be willing to let me know the address so that I can eliminate further anxieties about my own house?

I am not as convinced as you that it is not my tenant or her son.

Werdnal

Mike3 wrote: »

Werdnall, the question hasn't been answered perhaps I'm not asking correctly. As he has been there before 1989, does this mean he has a protected tenancy. By that I mean he lived there before 89 but was the owner and not a tenant.
If you don't know its not a problem I will speak with sols tomorrow.
Mike

I am far from expert in such matters, but IMO, his rights as a tenant started from the point where he became a tenant. It is very unlikely his years as "owner/occupier" would give him any more leverage for any additional rights now.

Check out out with your solicitor just to be sure.