Parking Fine" from Civil Enforcement Ltd? / debt recovery plus ltd

FLORIDA747

HI, the company i work for informed me they had recieved a ticket for me being over the 2 hours free parking (2hours 7 mins) in a Co Op supermarket.
My boss said he had looked on MSE.Com and said they could not do much about it and he was not obliged to give my details out, but when his wife got a letter threatening going to court she has now passed my name and address to Debt recovery plus ltd! who are now demanding £140 original letter from civil enforcement ltd i never saw but im sure it would have been less?

Please can i have some advice from people in the know.

Regards

Dave

spacey2012

Just call them up and tell them you will be happy to meet them in any court at any time.

The_Slithy_Tove

You can now ignore it completely. Your boss was right, his wife was not. But at least she is now out of the loop. Do your own research here, and discover, as your boss did, that this is unenforceable, and all the threats that you'll end up getting are so much hot air.

maninthestreet

So does the wife of your boss work for the same company?

Coupon-mad

FLORIDA747 wrote: »

HI, the company i work for informed me they had recieved a ticket for me being over the 2 hours free parking (2hours 7 mins) in a Co Op supermarket.
My boss said he had looked on MSE.Com and said they could not do much about it and he was not obliged to give my details out, but when his wife got a letter threatening going to court she has now passed my name and address to Debt recovery plus ltd! who are now demanding £140 original letter from civil enforcement ltd i never saw but im sure it would have been less?

Please can i have some advice from people in the know.

Regards

Dave

These debt collector letters are just part of the scam and ignoring them is as easy as just deleting phishing emails. You do not even have a real parking ticket, it's just a piece of rubbish. Like all the other posters on this board, you have a fake PCN.

The letters are easy to ignore and laugh at, when they arrive at the address of someone who knows it's all hogwash and not a real parking ticket at all.

The whole scam of fake PCNs relies firstly on people's ignorance of the fact that a random private company can't fine anyone, and secondly on their natural fear of parking tickets and the escalating costs/bailiff scenario. So PPCs copy the look of a real parking ticket and - hey presto! - the cash rolls in from victims who know no better.

There is no fine, no CCJ, no bailiff, no debt, no effect on credit rating, no Court, no repercussions at all.

Tick off the letters here.

Watchdog clip with expert Solicitor's opinion (which is still valid except for the one thing that the PPC can now write to the registered keeper if no driver known) here.

Barrister's opinion - read the answer at the bottom, it's very clear! - here.

Just play snap with the threatograms from debt collectors - simply choose to ignore and laugh at the scammer and their attempt to extort money. It's like deleting obvious phishing emails from your 'Bank'; it's a very similar con based on impersonation of authority.

HTH and welcome to the club - we've all been there, done that (ignore option) with a few fake PCNs and a shedload of debt collector letters!

FLORIDA747

Thanks for the replys:T but when i looked at Debt Recovery Plus Ltd their site looks like a real bailiffs company.

ManxRed

Bailiffs = Court Case you lost = Court Warrant = Come round and try to take your telly.

Debt Collector = Member of the public asking politely for the money. And that's it.

Don't confuse the two, BIG differences!

In your case the 'debt' that they are trying to collect is only 'alleged'. It cannot change status to being a real debt unless a judge in court decides. So the parking company would have to take you to court and win.

This simply isn't going to happen, because legally, they don't have a case against you. They can only claim in respect of the landowner's actual genuine financial losses as a result of your parking.

Seven minutes over in a free car park? Don't make me laugh!

They won't try this in court, they'd be laughed out of it in a shorter time than you overstayed in their car park!

Stroma

FLORIDA747 wrote: »

Thanks for the replys:T but when i looked at Debt Recovery Plus Ltd their site looks like a real bailiffs company.

But they don't have any right to act as bailiffs in this case, so only acting as pathetic debt collectors with no powers. A bailiff is only appointed if the parking company takes you to court, they win the case, you refuse to pay the judgement within 28 days, and they go back and pay a fee for court appointed bailiffs. This will not happen

peter_the_piper

FLORIDA747 wrote: »

their site looks like a real bailiffs company.

Of course it does, as the Big Bad Wolf said in Red Riding Hood, "All the better to scare you with."

bondy_lad

this is how these scum bags work, pretending to be something they are not and con you into believing its legit and then get your hard earned cash,simply ignore these scammers and their FAKE,make believe fines/invoices,,,,PENALTY charge notice=genuine=you DO NOT have this,,,PARKING charge notice=con/scam/fiddle=not legit=YOU DO have this,simply IGNORE this loo paper.

Splott

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

You can now ignore it completely.

Maybe not. Who is the registered keeper? If it is your boss or his wife, under the changes in the law in October they can pursue the registered keeper.

If it is the bosses wife who passed your details on, I reckon she'd pay if you didn't and they pursued her. Where would that leave you in the eyes of your boss if his wife pays out for your parking ticket?