Joiner input please - chipboard floor cracking/squeaky

pawlala

thanks for the input so far, I cannot see any residual glue at the T&G joints underneath the carpet, screws have been added (pilot holes were drilled, I remember a drill being used) next to the screws and both the screw and nail heads are buried deep. I was considering taking the nails out myself but I can hardly see them!

should I insist on glue being added to the joints, nails removed and/or a new floor if it gets no better?

If I had to get a private quote for floor replacement, how much would this set me back?

leveller2911

Furts wrote: »

leveller2911 wrote: »

NHBC Technical Standards 6.4 - S19

Thought as much its NHBC warranty but not building regs.

There really isn't any need to glue down the flooring.The problem is in general the "site" carpenters nowdays are not time served carpenters they are Monkeys with Pasloads and never been taught how to fit flooring correctly.

90% of them couldn't pitch a traditional cut and pitch roof.

Cheers for the link though, makes interesting reading.

Furts

pawlala wrote: »

thanks for the input so far, I cannot see any residual glue at the T&G joints underneath the carpet, screws have been added (pilot holes were drilled, I remember a drill being used) next to the screws and both the screw and nail heads are buried deep. I was considering taking the nails out myself but I can hardly see them!

should I insist on glue being added to the joints, nails removed and/or a new floor if it gets no better?

If I had to get a private quote for floor replacement, how much would this set me back?

Hi pawlala
Repairs are the builders responsibility - provided you have informed in writing of course.

To investigate some of the floor needs to be taken up. I can think of no other way of resolving this.

Under no circumstances should you entertain getting a private repair.

leveller2911

pawlala wrote: »

thanks for the input so far, I cannot see any residual glue at the T&G joints underneath the carpet, screws have been added (pilot holes were drilled, I remember a drill being used) next to the screws and both the screw and nail heads are buried deep. I was considering taking the nails out myself but I can hardly see them!

should I insist on glue being added to the joints, nails removed and/or a new floor if it gets no better?

If I had to get a private quote for floor replacement, how much would this set me back?

You may struggle to take the nails out, if they are annular rings they won't come out easily. I would insist they pull the nails out of a flooring sheet near a wall and see if the joint will push apart without nails in.If it does then its laid incorrectly and then insist on a new floor but you may need to contact NHBC, good luck with that as they are totally incompetant.

Remember the NHBC /was/is funded by the construction companies so its a bit like the fox being in charge of the chicken coup.I'm happy to be corrected on this but thats the way it use to be.

keystone

I still don't know what's wrong with proper floorboards TBH.

Cheers

leveller2911

keystone wrote: »

I still don't know what's wrong with proper floorboards TBH.

Cheers

Labour intensive= increase cost to customer.:D

Saving the trees too, easier to sweep the dust off the factory floor ,compress and glue it and sell it as flooring.

Furts

leveller2911 wrote: »

Labour intensive= increase cost to customer.:D

Saving the trees too, easier to sweep the dust off the factory floor ,compress and glue it and sell it as flooring.

What someone cynical about the independent NHBC...unheard of!

Your point on costs sets me thinking...chipboard floor sheets have gone from around £5 to £15 in about 2 years so the modern way is not so cheap. But do not worry - the government tell us inflation is around 3%, so I must have the costs wrong.

pawlala

Furts wrote: »

Hi pawlala
Repairs are the builders responsibility - provided you have informed in writing of course.

To investigate some of the floor needs to be taken up. I can think of no other way of resolving this.

Under no circumstances should you entertain getting a private repair.

thanks all snags have gone via their snag form sheets, signed by customer and developer. It's the only way I can keep track!!

I'll see what develops this week.

P.S. Is there usually fibreglass insulation between floors, and should the pipes be insulated? I'm intrigued to see whats in there.

leveller2911

Furts wrote: »

What someone cynical about the independent NHBC...unheard of!

Your point on costs sets me thinking...chipboard floor sheets have gone from around £5 to £15 in about 2 years so the modern way is not so cheap. But do not worry - the government tell us inflation is around 3%, so I must have the costs wrong.

Fair point re price of chipboard flooring but the quality of timber T&G flooring is dire now.Up until about 1960,s flooring was redwood pine now its fast grown whitewood pine which tends to split, full of knots and splits as soon as you nail/screw it.
It also tends to shrink a lot too so theres more negaitves than positives IMO and I love timber.:D

cyclonebri1

john.h wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOILAdmxEMY
Glued to joists..
john

So believe the advertising blurb if you want, that's all the link is, but ask the sparky/plumber who comes along to lay cables or pipes what he think about the stuff???:(:(:(