Social services onto me about not having child in nursery! Advice needed

shirlgirl2004

pinkshoes wrote: »

Children aged 3 and over are entitled to 15 hours of childcare per week FREE during term time.

This scheme was set up by the government because at the age of 22 months, the attainment gap between children from deprived and wealthly areas is already quite big, so by offering free nursery places to EVERYONE, it will hopefully help close this attainment gap.

Personally I don't understand why anyone wouldn't take advantage of this scheme, as it can offer your child a LOT, both educationally and socially.

It's not about how big your support network is. It's about offering your child something that might be of benefit to them.

Some people like to educate their children themselves in line with their own ideals. Why is that so wrong?

Yes nurseries can be great places for those children who are in families with "don't give a damn" parents but those with loving parents can gain more by being at home both educationally and scoially.

Tupperware_Queen

johnnyl wrote: »

right, so nowhere does that say that it is a duty of the HV to report every instance of opting out to the social services. It is a judgement rather than what you was presenting it as (standard procedure)

withdrawing from services would class as a cause for concern

FBaby

johnnyl, you keep focusing on the individual when the role of the HV in reporting a case is about procedures. If there is only 1 chance out of 100, out of 1000 that these children are at risk, then it needs to be acted on. The best way to do that is not to assume every family is safe and only raise the alarm bell when there is evidence that abuse takes place, but about assuming that any family could be at risk and raising the alarm bell as soon as something is out of the ordinary.

It is so much easier to disreguard wrong concerns than to deal with suspicions that were ignored so not to upset the family.

bagpuss38

Yes nurseries can be great places for those children who are in families with "don't give a damn" parents but those with loving parents can gain more by being at home both educationally and scoially.[/QUOTE]


Excuse me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So anyone who sends their child to nursery doesnt give a damn, ooooh theres alot of us about then :mad:

Nicki

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

Some people like to educate their children themselves in line with their own ideals. Why is that so wrong?

Yes nurseries can be great places for those children who are in families with "don't give a damn" parents but those with loving parents can gain more by being at home both educationally and scoially.

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Judgmental much!

My three year old DS goes to nursery from 9 to 11.30 every morning and has a fantastic time interacting with a wide range of other kids his own age and having access to about 50 times more toys than we have at home, plus specialist music and sports tuition, visiting actors, musicians etc.

That still leaves us with NINE hours every day together, where he is loved, cosseted and educated by me.

Rather than "not giving a damn" about him, I am secure enough in my own parenting skills to believe that some exposure to outside influences, and others opinions are beneficial to him, and that if he is taught correctly at home and a good example set to him that he will still absorb all the values I would wish him to have.

Other parents are so damn rude sometimes :mad:

bagpuss38

oh and its socially, maybe if your "loving parents" had sent you to school you could spell!

securityguy

bagpuss38 wrote: »

oh and its socially, maybe if your "loving parents" had sent you to school you could spell!

Hmm, the irony.

shirlgirl2004

bagpuss38 wrote: »

Yes nurseries can be great places for those children who are in families with "don't give a damn" parents but those with loving parents can gain more by being at home both educationally and scoially.

Excuse me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So anyone who sends their child to nursery doesnt give a damn, ooooh theres alot of us about then :mad:[/QUOTE]
I didn't say all children that go to nursery have "don't give a damn parents" what I did say is that they are great places for those childre. Meaning those are the children that will gain most from it because they won't be getting that input at home.

ETA the quote feature doesn't seem to worked very well on this occasion!

johnnyl

coolcait wrote: »

It's interesting that you cry 'hyperbole' so often, yet make fairly hyperbolic statements yourself.

There may be nothing suspicious about a parent choosing not to have HV involvement with an infant, and choosing not to send an older child to nursery.

Then again, there may be something suspicious about it.

Impossible to say without carrying out a bit of investigation.

If you investigate, you will get reactions like some we have seen on this thread - 'Big Brother', 'nanny state', unnecessary etc

If you don't investigate, there might never be any problems with any of the families involved.

But, sometimes, if you don't investigate, you will end up with one of those cases where we are left wondering 'how could this happen?!'

That's the risk.

but there is nothing to investigate. You investigate if the child rolls up somewhere with injuries or makes certain claims.

There literally is nothing to see. How can you investigate someone for doing a perfectly legal thing. If it was such a concern then it would be illegal to do.

bagpuss38

Good point well made lol, more haste less speed.:embarasse