What do I do? I might have messed up my Delivery option.

5thElement_2

I hate idiots like you who do that. I go out my way to avoid the clowns who blatantly overcharge with postage, there's just no need for it.

If you dont like ebay's fees, dont use ebay! they're providing a service, which unsurprisingly you have to pay for.

webbie

5thElement wrote: »

I hate idiots like you who do that. I go out my way to avoid the clowns who blatantly overcharge with postage, there's just no need for it.

If you dont like ebay's fees, dont use ebay! they're providing a service, which unsurprisingly you have to pay for.

True - they are providing a service - but I am a seller - and so I am providing a service. So is every other business out there in the big wide world. Are you telling me you wouldn't buy off a national company because they covered their fees on postage? If you don't understand the main aim of business - to cover your costs and make a profit - why trade? Some people just get their knickers in a twist over all those "idiots" who are actually earning decent money!

MyUserNamesTaken

the_tired_one wrote: »

I have apologised - and I always leave immediate feedback upon payment.

So Ive done all I can for now....

I wouldn't say you've done all you can. If he notices that it cost you £6 to post, he's going to realise that he paid £4 on top for packaging, etc. He'll possibly come back to you saying your postage costs were excessive, or mark you down for it. You could offer to refund some of the extra you charged him (say £1.50-£2?). You'll get back the extra paypal fees if you do a partial refund. You'll still have had £1 towards your fees, which you shouldn't have added onto the postage costs really, and the buyer will be probably be placated.

MyUserNamesTaken

webbie wrote: »

True - they are providing a service - but I am a seller - and so I am providing a service. So is every other business out there in the big wide world. Are you telling me you wouldn't buy off a national company because they covered their fees on postage? If you don't understand the main aim of business - to cover your costs and make a profit - why trade? Some people just get their knickers in a twist over all those "idiots" who are actually earning decent money!

So, you're a business. I assume you've registered as self employed? Other ebay sellers are PRIVATE sellers. As such, they are not running businesses. Personally, I also avoid sellers who factor Ebay/Paypal fees into their P&P costs, as they are passing on costs to the buyer which they should have factored into their original start price. All in all, you're basically avoiding Ebay fees by doing this and ripping off your buyers to boot. You'll find national companies cover their costs by including them in the price of the items for sale, not the postage costs.

Incidentally, I'd really love to see your self assessment form. It would make amazing reading. I wonder if you declare as profit the extra you are making by inflating your postage and packaging charges? After all, I'm sure you're keeping track of the mileage driven to and from the Post Office when taking your parcels to be sent (at .40p per mile from Mr. Taxman), as well as receipts for purchasing envelopes, bubble wrap, cardboard boxes, stamps, etc, etc, etc.

webbie

MyUserNamesTaken wrote: »

So, you're a business. I assume you've registered as self employed? Other ebay sellers are PRIVATE sellers. As such, they are not running businesses. Personally, I also avoid sellers who factor Ebay/Paypal fees into their P&P costs, as they are passing on costs to the buyer which they should have factored into their original start price. All in all, you're basically avoiding Ebay fees by doing this and ripping off your buyers to boot. You'll find national companies cover their costs by including them in the price of the items for sale, not the postage costs.

Incidentally, I'd really love to see your self assessment form. It would make amazing reading. I wonder if you declare as profit the extra you are making by inflating your postage and packaging charges? After all, I'm sure you're keeping track of the mileage driven to and from the Post Office when taking your parcels to be sent (at .40p per mile from Mr. Taxman), as well as receipts for purchasing envelopes, bubble wrap, cardboard boxes, stamps, etc, etc, etc.

I can see your smirk now!!

Yes I am self employed and have declared it. Just beacuse I factor in my fees does not mean I am defrauding the Inland Revenue - and yes - extra profit is declared - it is coming into my bank account and needs to be balanced somehow!

Everyone gets so in a twist about paying EXACT postage - exactly who saves the packaging and dashes to log on to Ebay to check it is exactly the same as they paid?? How many refunds have you had from Ebay sellers who found they had "overcharged" and dashed home from the PO to refund you? None I bet!! - they all charge extra for their time/petrol/packaging - and use it to pay their fees?? So whats the difference - apart from the fact I am honest enough to say it?

fwhorn

Hi,

if the P+P is to high then you reflect that in the price you bid. I always charge an higher postage and packaging, as people forget the time that is involved. If you charged a true cost then you would be strung up.

sourcing packing 5 mins
Packing 10 mins
Taking to Post office 40 mins (round trip and wait).

So time = 55 mins @ £6.00 per hour = £5.50

So now you can add £5.50 + packing + postage.

So to all the people who have got on their high horse regarding ebay P+P, get down because you cannot ride it.

ALSO

MYUSERNAMEISTAKEN you are having a go at some one to pay taxes on what they sell on ebay, and then you are encouraging people to evade taxes on things coming in from abroad because you do it.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=439422

So we can put you down as a bit of an hypocrite, can we?

MyUserNamesTaken

fwhorn wrote: »

Hi,

if the P+P is to high then you reflect that in the price you bid. I always charge an higher postage and packaging, as people forget the time that is involved. If you charged a true cost then you would be strung up.

sourcing packing 5 mins
Packing 10 mins
Taking to Post office 40 mins (round trip and wait).

So time = 55 mins @ £6.00 per hour = £5.50

So now you can add £5.50 + packing + postage.

So to all the people who have got on their high horse regarding ebay P+P, get down because you cannot ride it.

ALSO

MYUSERNAMEISTAKEN you are having a go at some one to pay taxes on what they sell on ebay, and then you are encouraging people to evade taxes on things coming in from abroad because you do it.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=439422

So we can put you down as a bit of an hypocrite, can we?

As stated in that post, I didn't ask the seller to do it. The seller did it without me saying anything. Also, I'm not the one claiming to be a business.

Cloysterpeteuk

webbie wrote: »

I can see your smirk now!!

Yes I am self employed and have declared it. Just beacuse I factor in my fees does not mean I am defrauding the Inland Revenue - and yes - extra profit is declared - it is coming into my bank account and needs to be balanced somehow!

Everyone gets so in a twist about paying EXACT postage - exactly who saves the packaging and dashes to log on to Ebay to check it is exactly the same as they paid?? How many refunds have you had from Ebay sellers who found they had "overcharged" and dashed home from the PO to refund you? None I bet!! - they all charge extra for their time/petrol/packaging - and use it to pay their fees?? So whats the difference - apart from the fact I am honest enough to say it?

I got a refund of £2 from a seller who overcharged me on a small 2" lead figurine, only after I spent half an hour crafting an essay to convince him he should partially refund me so maybe it wasn't the best use of my free time but it did feel good when the seller admitted he was overcharging.

Often I refuse to deal with seller who artificially inflate the postage costs, like those idiots from Hong Kong who sell flash memory for 99p with £25 postage just to avoid paying their ebay final value fees. There must be other people like me who do the same so such practices is shooting yourself in the foot a little. Only exceptions to this are when I see a rare item that I must have, in these cases I factor in the postage price, so if the postage is £10 more than it should be than I bid £10 less than I would normally have bid so if I win the end total I pay is the same.

fwhorn

Did you declare it to customs and excise that you should have paid tax and duty?

Because if you didn't then you are evading taxes, exactly what you are accusing another poster of doing, who I might add never said they wasn't a business.

Also you have copied my post but made no mention of fees which most of it was about.

webbie

Cloysterpeteuk wrote: »

I got a refund of £2 from a seller who overcharged me on a small 2" lead figurine, only after I spent half an hour crafting an essay to convince him he should partially refund me so maybe it wasn't the best use of my free time but it did feel good when the seller admitted he was overcharging.

Often I refuse to deal with seller who artificially inflate the postage costs, like those idiots from Hong Kong who sell flash memory for 99p with £25 postage just to avoid paying their ebay final value fees. There must be other people like me who do the same so such practices is shooting yourself in the foot a little. Only exceptions to this are when I see a rare item that I must have, in these cases I factor in the postage price, so if the postage is £10 more than it should be than I bid £10 less than I would normally have bid so if I win the end total I pay is the same.

I think the point here is how much is "overinflated"? I have never said I do silly prices - some ebay/paypal fees may be £1.00 per item - so a postage cost of £3.00 which cost £1.92 at the PO is not the same as above.

To double check - I have just re-read my feedback for the last month - 87 positives - no negatives - no comment on over-inflated prices. Just sensible customers who read the auction page and agreed to the postage cost.