what happens if i dont declare a new partner?

mommys_pop

Hello, im just wondering what would happen if i didnt declare a new partner on my renewal form? i dont see why i have to declare his wages when i dont sponge off him!:mad: his money is his and mines mine,doesnt seem fair to me.Hes on the electoral roll and ive declared him on community charge so ive lost my discount...fair enough.But why do i have to on tax credits?? I have 2 kids, but only pay child costs of 30 a week for my one.Advice really appreciated.

Sagaris

Because if he is living with you, I think they lump all your money together for tax credit purposes. Best to declare your change of circumstances now, you know there's always someone who will inform the authorities otherwise! If they find out later, they will reclaim the extra they have paid you.

Zara33

If you don't it's classed as fraud, you will be getting a single parent rate, when infact you are a family unit.

You say his money is his and your money is your's so how does that work regarding household bills etc perhaps i'm missing something here, but i always assumed when you became a couple what's his was your's and what's your's was his.

You become a union so to speak.

Scarlett1

mommys_pop wrote: »

Hello, im just wondering what would happen if i didnt declare a new partner on my renewal form? i dont see why i have to declare his wages when i dont sponge off him!:mad: his money is his and mines mine,doesnt seem fair to me.Hes on the electoral roll and ive declared him on community charge so ive lost my discount...fair enough.But why do i have to on tax credits?? I have 2 kids, but only pay child costs of 30 a week for my one.Advice really appreciated.

its not sponging off him its him paying his way in an equal partnership

if you dont declare his wages you will get an overpayment and will eventually get found out and probably have thousand of pounds to pay back, you might even get your tax credits stopped altogether, im wondering aswell are you claiming housing benefit ?

Becles

In black and white, it's fraud if you don't declare that he lives with you.

I appreciate you don't sponge off him, but when two people live together it's total household income that counts for tax credits purposes. It's not sponging if he contributes to bills, housing costs and food as he's using the things just as much as you and your children.

Sit down and have a chat with him, and explain what will happen with your tax credits. Hopefully you'll be able to work out a joint solution to cover the essentials based on the changes his income and the lower amount tax credits will bring in.

Been through similar myself when my hubby moved in with us as my tax credit award changed. We talked about it and we've worked out how to handle the joint finances in a way that works for us. Never argued about money with him, so it does work if you put the effort in!

Fran

I agree with the above, also as you have already declared him they now have much more contact between departments/organisations so you can't take the risk. If you have declared him on electoral roll you have already stated he lives with you, you can't then pretend to DSS/HMRC/Council that he doesn't!

Morglin

If you get discovered, you will get done, and you will have to repay all the excess benefits - and you run the risk of prosecution for fraud.

Is it worth the risk?

Lin

changkra

I'n not in this position and have no idea how most benefits work but, if the OP partner signed a legal declaration with a solicitor staitng that s/he did not pay towards any bills or up keep on the property and both monies were seperate would they still take this persons wages into consideration?

BernadetteN

changkra wrote: »

I'n not in this position and have no idea how most benefits work but, if the OP partner signed a legal declaration with a solicitor staitng that s/he did not pay towards any bills or up keep on the property and both monies were seperate would they still take this persons wages into consideration?

There are couples who have been together for decades who operate in this same manner - my father paid no bills from his wages, just my mum who paid all the bills. I see no difference between a couple with kids together where one partner pays NO BILLS and a couple with no kids together but who live together and where one partner also pays NO BILLS.

If a couple lives together, their incomes have to be counted together, irrelevant of who pays the bills. It does really annoy me though the number of couples (even ones who have children together) who deliberately "live" apart for benefits purposes because they are better off financially that way.

ukdickie31

1st post by new member -- troll alert !

changkra

Thank you for your explanation

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