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Friend might be being used for a visa

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  • an9i77
    an9i77 Posts: 1,460 Forumite
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    My friend met a man from Africa online, went abroad to see him, fell in love and then went back again and came back engaged! We were all sure it was all a con but they got married in Africa, and applied for a spouse visa, and are now living together blissfully happy in this country.
    I was skeptical at first but having met the guy he seems lovely and very genuine and a good guy.
    So it doesn't always have to be about the visa!
  • Errata
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    No it doesn't, but it is all about the visa for the OP's friends bloke.
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • I freely admit that I am not in possession of all the facts. Unfortunately neither is my friend who is going to marry this man.

    All I know is that he is not entitled to be here (by his own admission) and is rushing her into marriage (so that he can stay here). Yes he says he loves her and she clearly is besotted with him

    These are facts.

    Prior to the bombshell of having to get married in March marriage was not a consideration - quite the opposite.
  • Your relative would have met his wife in the 'real world' got to know her and courted her over a period of time. What happens on these internet sites is that the people who make a living from preying on lonely vulnerable people are very clever, and very patient. They reel them in and they know what they are doing.

    Well, according to the OP they have been living together for 10 months. That is about 4 months longer than it was before my relative got married.

    The fact that this person happened to meet their partner online doesnt suddenly make him a criminal mastermind with the patience of a saint. Even before the days of the internet we used to have gold diggers, marriages of convenience etc.
    scooby088 wrote:
    Who says it's racist to inform the immigration, if this person is an over stayer then steps need to be taken to get him deported, He has broke the law and is continuing to break the law if he is found to be an over stayer. I dont care if he is the multi millionaire or a lowly NMW earner.

    Who even suggested he was an overstayer? The OP clearly admits they dont know the facts.

    Do you phone up immigration about every person that may be a foreigner just in case they are and they are overstaying?

    What is racist (or xenophobic at least) is to suggest that simply because he comes from another country that he must be a bad person whos only after her money/ a visa etc. There has been absolutely no evidence put forward that he is anything but in love with his person but 90% of posts on here assume he is up to no good based purely on the info given (met on internet and from west africa)
  • All I know is that he is not entitled to be here (by his own admission) and is rushing her into marriage (so that he can stay here).

    Your changing your story now. Now you are saying he isnt entitled to be here where as previously you said he was but his visa will run out in September. Which is it?

    If he is an overstayer then getting married is unlikely to change anything
  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
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    I freely admit that I am not in possession of all the facts. Unfortunately neither is my friend who is going to marry this man.

    All I know is that he is not entitled to be here (by his own admission) and is rushing her into marriage (so that he can stay here). Yes he says he loves her and she clearly is besotted with him

    These are facts.

    Prior to the bombshell of having to get married in March marriage was not a consideration - quite the opposite.
    oh dear, that doesn't look very good. I wonder what he was using for money during his years of studying at University of East London.
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • Jox
    Jox Posts: 1,652 Forumite
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    I married a non-EU person and was very naive about the whole process.

    5 years later we are still together and still in love but it's been a hard 5 years of jumping through hoops.

    I might not have married him if I had known how hard the journey would be but it has made our relationship stronger.

    I used the UK Resident forums a lot for advice, there are immigration solicitors who offer free advice on the board and there is a solicitor called Victoria Sharkey who I went to and paid for her help, she was great.


    http://www.ukresident.com/forums/
  • FBaby
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    What do you mean by marriage was not a consideration -quite the opposite? Has it been mentioned before? By whom? The opposite is making a statement they didn't want marriage. Was that him or her?
  • scooby088
    scooby088 Posts: 3,385 Forumite
    Well, according to the OP they have been living together for 10 months. That is about 4 months longer than it was before my relative got married.

    The fact that this person happened to meet their partner online doesnt suddenly make him a criminal mastermind with the patience of a saint. Even before the days of the internet we used to have gold diggers, marriages of convenience etc.



    Who even suggested he was an overstayer? The OP clearly admits they dont know the facts.

    Do you phone up immigration about every person that may be a foreigner just in case they are and they are overstaying?

    What is racist (or xenophobic at least) is to suggest that simply because he comes from another country that he must be a bad person whos only after her money/ a visa etc. There has been absolutely no evidence put forward that he is anything but in love with his person but 90% of posts on here assume he is up to no good based purely on the info given (met on internet and from west africa)

    There isn't any evidence that he isn't an over stayer too, it doesn't matter where they are from, as a matter of fact I haven't said anything about the bloke being a bad person or he's not in love with the woman, but everything that has been posted sounds dodgy a 9 year student visa never known any course last that long. I met my OH online doesn't mean anything where they met does it.

    What matters most is that if proven to be an overstayer and no one on this forum can be sure whether he is or not, the relevant authorities need to be informed. And If I were in possession in the full facts then I would write differently.
  • Your changing your story now. Now you are saying he isnt entitled to be here where as previously you said he was but his visa will run out in September. Which is it?

    I am not changing any story. He has said that unless they marry by x date in March he will have to leave the UK in September.

    My understanding is therefore that he will no longer be entitled to be here as of September.

    Sorry for the incorrect use of tenses.
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