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The nightmare scenario.....
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So would Europe trade with UK or not?
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If you were France or Germany, and the UK wanted to leave the EU, would you.....
1. Just give us free trade and access to markets, while we stop paying our EU membership fees.
or....
2. Try and make us pay the fees for access to the markets.
Also, if you were an EU member state, and the UK wanted to leave the EU, would you.....
1. Just leave unrestricted access to markets in place so that all the thousands of companies using the UK for their EU regional headquarters or manufacturing stayed in the UK.
or....
2. Refuse to leave a preferential deal in place, so that all those thousands of businesses, and hundreds of thousands of jobs, had to move to a country still within the EU.
Answers on a postcard.....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Hamish, we've had threats from Germany before. Quite a few times actually.
Remember when Cameron used his Veto? You were on here saying this would be disaterous for the UK. As were Germany and France.
What exactly happened? I'll tell you what....diddly squat. And if they start charging us for stuff....fine.
We'll charge £200 for every EU lorry driving around our roads delivering EU goods, and make up the money.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »We'll charge £200 for every EU lorry driving around our roads delivering EU goods, and make up the money.
And how will that make up for the potentially hundreds of thousands of lost jobs as companies relocate their headquarters and manufacturing plants to within the EU after we leave?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »And how will that make up for the lost jobs as companies relocate their headquarters and manufacturing plants to within the EU after we leave?
What, like the banks said they would and never did?
Those kind of relocations?
Seems to me you have put your tin foil hat on and expect every threat from VI's to be carried through.
See you ignored the bit about your hysterical ramblings over the veto.0 -
I would suspect that Germany would not want to rock the boat as their trade with the UK is very profitable. I believe that once away from the idealistic and politically driven EU hierachy, most of the nations would be pretty pragmatic.HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »If you were France or Germany, and the UK wanted to leave the EU, would you.....
1. Just give us free trade and access to markets, while we stop paying our EU membership fees.
or....
2. Try and make us pay the fees for access to the markets.
Also, if you were an EU member state, and the UK wanted to leave the EU, would you.....
1. Just leave unrestricted access to markets in place so that all the thousands of companies using the UK for their EU regional headquarters or manufacturing stayed in the UK.
or....
2. Refuse to leave a preferential deal in place, so that all those thousands of businesses, and hundreds of thousands of jobs, had to move to a country still within the EU.
Answers on a postcard.....
How can you justify the CAP by the way?0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »What, like the banks said they would?
Those kind of relocations?
Seems to me you have put your tin foil hat on and expect every threat from VI's to be carried through.
Wow.
You're just being daft now.
Seriously Graham, take your anti-immigration blinkers off and just see how incredibly stupid this is.
Companies locate their EU facilities here, because we're in the EU, and so their goods, products, services and people can travel freely within the EU without penalty or hassle.
Why would they stay if we leave the EU, and thus lose access to those free trade and free movement deals?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Wow.
You're just being daft now.
Seriously Graham, take your anti-immigration blinkers off and just see how incredibly stupid this is.
Companies locate their EU facilities here, because we're in the EU, and so their goods, products, services and people can travel freely within the EU without penalty or hassle.
Why would they stay if we leave the EU, and thus lose access to those free trade and free movement deals?
Which companies?
And as they trade here, are you suggesting they would give up a large slice of their business and quit trading here?0 -
Why are all these companies not already in Belgium or wherever, which has the added advantage of a common currency?HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Wow.
You're just being daft now.
Seriously Graham, take your anti-immigration blinkers off and just see how incredibly stupid this is.
Companies locate their EU facilities here, because we're in the EU, and so their goods, products, services and people can travel freely within the EU without penalty or hassle.
Why would they stay if we leave the EU, and thus lose access to those free trade and free movement deals?0 -
I would suspect that Germany would not want to rock the boat as their trade with the UK is very profitable. I believe that once away from the idealistic and politically driven EU hierachy, most of the nations would be pretty pragmatic.
Isn't half the argument of the eurosceptics that no individual EU country can negotiate it's own deals?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
And your point is?HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Isn't half the argument of the eurosceptics that no individual EU country can negotiate it's own deals?0
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