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Osborne and Cameron to resign
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Yes, but Labour politicians and supporters are mostly idiots.
We expect that sort of nonsense from them.
It is however deeply tragic that the same party that gave us Thatcher can now only come up with the Cameron/Osbourne comedy act.
At their last annual conference George was summed up by the Statesman...
As befits someone whose career had crashed and burned in just six months, he arrived looking like he had come straight from being sick in the toilets. White-faced, rictus grin in place, the Chancellor of the Exchequer stumbled onto the stage at the Tory Party conference looking as if he had been propelled from the wings by some erstwhile friend.0 -
It's very depressing that many people would have Gordon Brown back in place of Osborne simply because one is labelled a "toff" and the other not so.
Whilst so much of the electorate is so shallow, emotive, and ignorant is it any wonder that politicians (and officials) for the most part hold voters in contempt, disregard their wishes, and just look after their own interests, such that we have an almost complete failure of democracy.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »The coalition have been blaming labour for some of the problems for 2 years.
Labour have been blanming Thatcher for pretty much everything (and done abslutely nothing but continue on the same path she laid out!) for 22 years.
It's difficult for one set of party followers to tell another to stop blaming, when the same party followers are still blaming thatcher for everything as soon as it's get's difficult as "thatcher started it".
Labour is already blaming the Conservatives for the "mess" they will find when they come into power next.0 -
Labour is already blaming the Conservatives for the "mess" they will find when they come into power next.
I don't think they actually took that stance very much in 1997.
They stood mainly on anti-sleaze ....
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »It's very depressing that many people would have Gordon Brown back in place of Osborne simply because one is labelled a "toff" and the other not so.
Whilst so much of the electorate is so shallow, emotive, and ignorant is it any wonder that politicians (and officials) for the most part hold voters in contempt, disregard their wishes, and just look after their own interests, such that we have an almost complete failure of democracy.
Your assessment does not bode well with our present political leaders...
At the next General Election, leaders will be trying toimpress these voters who they believe many of them to be made up of the above, nowwe could say that if David Cameron wishes to achieve a majority, then he is goingto have to try and impress many of these voters, who once voted for theLiberals and Labour, so DC will not appeal to many of these voters, will he?
So tell me where he hopes to get his majority from?
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Your assessment does not bode well with our present political leaders...
At the next General Election, leaders will be trying toimpress these voters who they believe many of them to be made up of the above, nowwe could say that if David Cameron wishes to achieve a majority, then he is goingto have to try and impress many of these voters, who once voted for theLiberals and Labour, so DC will not appeal to many of these voters, will he?
So tell me where he hopes to get his majority from?
You are right, he will have to appeal to a lot of the bozos because that's the reality. But their shallowness and fickleness could work in his favour. If he majors on improving education (Labour's not a hard act to follow), pushing back the EU boundaries in earnest, doing something about the human rights farce, cutting welfare for the closed-curtains skivers, putting victims before criminals, and putting two fingers up to Argentina over the Falklands, that will strike a positive chord with many of those types. If at the same time the lightweight Milliband/Balls double act cannot come up with anything better than "we've learned the lessons", some nebulous waffling about fairness, snipes about "toffs", and no addressing the public deficit/debt other than praying for growth, that will also strike a negative chord with the fickle, politically uncommitted.
You might not like to face the fact, but with 2 years to go it is all to play for.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
Why wasnt it insulting to your intelligence for Labour to keep blaming Thatcher for what she did 20 years ago?HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Be funny if this one got 100,000 signatures.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/33327
As little good as it will do, he does have a point.
It is insulting our intelligence to keep blaming Labour for what, over 2 years in, has now become a ConDem economic failure.
At the end fo the day, the economic failure IS LABOURS FAULT. You dont turn around a £150bn deficit overnight.0 -
angrypirate wrote: »Why wasnt it insulting to your intelligence for Labour to keep blaming Thatcher for what she did 20 years ago?
At the end fo the day, the economic failure IS LABOURS FAULT. You dont turn around a £150bn deficit overnight.
Labour have not doubt contributed to the UKs slide from greatness but they are not soley responsible for the last 3 decades of poor government that have left us this enfeebled overburdened sick state.
The conservatives are squeezing the sponge now but the water is still coming in. It will continue to expand."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
angrypirate wrote: »Why wasnt it insulting to your intelligence for Labour to keep blaming Thatcher for what she did 20 years ago?
At the end fo the day, the economic failure IS LABOURS FAULT. You dont turn around a £150bn deficit overnight.
I think that we are all fully aware of who is to blame and who is at fault, in the most part, helped by outside forces, but the sooner that we stop CROWING the clearer it will be to see where we are GOING...0 -
I blame the politicians.
But it's our fault for voting for them. Or not voting for them. Gah, it's impossible. You want idiot A or idiot B running the country? if /everyone/ abstained, would that help?0
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