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The Wolf Run refund for underage entrant

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  • Thanks to all that have posted answers or comments

    Peachyprice - they knew her age when they took the deposit as you have to fill it in on the form.

    Cracklepop - Perhaps when she is older and maybe even started some sort of physical training rather than thinking it will be fun.

    Hintza - my daughter did not lie or misrepresent herself, she was talked into entering by somebody else (over 18) who did not inform her of the age limit or anything about what the event entailed. It would be a wonderful thing for her to do if she did not have a very full schedule with her life to start with. Kids hey! I think perhaps in about 5 years when she has done her college work and got a foot on the career ladder she will be more able to do things like this.

    I will have to wait and see if they get back to me with an answer on the refund. If not then it will teach her a bit of a lesson that it is better to read things before agreeing on the strength of what somebody else tells her.
  • halibut2209
    halibut2209 Posts: 4,250 Forumite
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    If they say no under-18s then they can't take money from under-18s. Of course she is entitled to a full refund.
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  • Sorry, still unsure about one thing you've not answered
    snakelova wrote: »
    The site clearly states that the mimimum age for entering is 18 but she was told that if a parent gave permission she could still take part.

    Who told her that?
    snakelova wrote: »
    my daughter did not lie or misrepresent herself, she was talked into entering by somebody else (over 18) who did not inform her of the age limit or anything about what the event entailed.

    So either she can do the run but only with parental consent - which she doesn't have. Or you have to be over 18 to do the run, which she isn't.

    Both of those should have been checked by the organisers, as they weren't she should get a full refund. Try calling them. There seems to be a waiting list for the run so no shortage of people who'd take her place.
  • keyser666
    keyser666 Posts: 2,140 Forumite
    I think the OP should let her make the decision, as said by another poster it was fun and you are not obligated to complete all of the route.
  • OlliesDad
    OlliesDad Posts: 1,825 Forumite
    cracklepop wrote: »

    So either she can do the run but only with parental consent - which she doesn't have. Or you have to be over 18 to do the run, which she isn't.

    Is this not like when a competition says "get bill payers permission"? They are saying that by continuing with the booking you are agreeing that your parents agree, therefore the OP's daughter has misrepresented herself.
  • halibut2209
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    Then you have the lovely grey area of can an under-18 legally make such a representation?
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  • steampowered
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    I think you are being overprotective. Running over a few obstacles and going for a run is not "dangerous". You can compete in triathlons from age 16 which are much more demanding - 1.5km swim, 40k bike-ride and 10km run one after the other (longer if it is a marathon triathlon).

    Someone of good fitness should be able to complete the course without too much of a problem. If it is too much then all she has to do is stop. Your call but I don't see a problem.
  • pjcox2005
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    goater78 wrote: »
    How long does it take to run? A normal 10k run takes around 50 minutes. I assume it takes a lot longer to do under these conditions?

    We did it a very steady pace waiting for the slowest in our group to catch up before tackling each obstacle together and it took about 1hr 50mins. They set you off in waves of runners every 10 mins so its not overcrowded nor is their any feeling of being left behind if not quicker.

    I reckon I could comfortbaly do it in 1hr 20mins if I had gone normal running pace. The lake takes a little time to cross/pull yourself out, but the tarpaulin they lay out down a hill and grease with fairy liquid probably makes up a fair amount of time :rotfl:. The rest is crawling on hands and knees under netting, climbing over tyres/hay bails etc.
  • OK everybody I have a response from the organisers.

    The organisers were the ones that said she could take part if she had parental concent. They have contacted me to say they checked with their insurers and she would have been covered to take part but she could only di that with my permission. The automated online booking system has the birth year of 1995 on the form to select (making those born before April 18 years old at time of event). This has now been amended so that they cannot enter online unless they ohone the organisers first. They have also checked to see if any other underage/borderline entrants have got through without detection. This is not the case and she was the only underage contestant.

    All of you that comment she should be allowed to take part should stop and think why something says you have to be a certain age to take part. Rules are rules and she has a whole life ahead of herself to enter all the things in the world and I am sure she will. None of you know her or my personal circumstances and to why I believe she should not take part this year. I only wanted to know if it was possible to obtain a refund.

    Even with these comments I appreciate all your assistance with the postings and will tell you all that the organisers have agreed to give a full refund as she is under 18 without permission. Kinda restores your faith in human nature.
  • Lip_Stick
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    I do think you're a bit controlling, i.e. saying she can do it in 5 years time. She'll be 22 then! She can legally do it next year if she wants.

    I do appreciate where you are coming from about doing it now though. As you say, you know her best, and you obviously only want what is best for your daughter. Well done on getting the refund. And well done to the organisers for giving the refund.
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