The Wolf Run refund for underage entrant

snakelova

Hello, this is my first post so am a bit unsure where to put this question. I have just found out that my 17 year old daughter has been entered into the Wolf Run and paid £42 non refundable deposit. The site clearly states that the mimimum age for entering is 18 but she was told that if a parent gave permission she could still take part. Now this is a physically demanding and dangerous 10K run over fields, natural and man-made obsticles including swimming in lakes which you have to sign a consent form to enter. In my opinion they are being incredibly irrisponsible stating that she could still take part even though she is under age, given the events level of difficulty. I have written to them stating that I want her witdrawn from the event and refunded as she is underage and I refuse to give permission.

My question is how likely am I to be able to get a refund for the £42 she paid? This is an awful lot of money for her to be loosing if she does not take part and she was talked into entering by somebody before she knew what it entailed (silly I know but that is teenagers for you!) My belief is that they should not have accepted her entry or payment as she clearly stated her date of birth when signing up. I would be very grateful if somebody could give me some advice on this.

vuvuzela

Is she capable of completing it ? I know she is slightly under the age she needed to be, but if she's fit and healthy, then could she complete the course ? As a 17 year old (and any age to be perfectly honest), I wouldn't have been capable of completing this, as I am particularly lazy, but I knew 16/17 year olds when I was that age that did this sort of thing and loved it.

Hintza

Sounds fantastic to me.

Is there an age limit?

Yes - you have to be 18 or older on the day of the Wolf Run to participate.

Your daughter has obviously lied and misrepresented herself.


I would have thought you would be better asking them to put the money on hold until she is 18 and can make up her own mind whether to participate or not.

(Oh crikey I'll be getting it in the neck again for not leaving the correct answer......)

peachyprice

snakelova wrote: »

The site clearly states that the mimimum age for entering is 18 but she was told that if a parent gave permission she could still take part.

Are you saying that they took her payment knowing her age without parental permission or did she get someone else to give 'parental' permission.

cracklepop

snakelova wrote: »

she was talked into entering by somebody before she knew what it entailed (

So now she does know what it entails, does she still want to do it? Not that that has any bearing on your rights, I'm just curious to know.

Hintza

peachyprice wrote: »

Are you saying that they took her payment knowing her age without parental permission or did she get someone else to give 'parental' permission.

There is no parental permission she has to be over 18.

System

You have to be over 18 as you have to sign a waiver form to take part. I don't believe its excessively dangerous if you are under 18. However if you are under 18 I don't believe you can legally sign a waiver form?

Thats what the parent needs to sign.

Personally I would let her do it. She's paid for it and it looks like they do them a few times a year. So depending on her birthday you are only putting it back a few months. I can't really see that making much of an impact.

pjcox2005

The website is quite clear it's over 18 and non-refundable, non-transferable entrance fee so I don't think they have to do anything. That being said it's a well organised event so they may be generous if you contact them.

As an insight, it's billed as a supportive team event with the aim of completing rather than a fast time. The lake is cold, but I had no issue crossing despite not being a strong swimmer and there were lifeguards around. Likewise their is an option of avoiding it completely.

The 10k run is a reasonable distance but we have a couple of girls in our team who had only started running two months before and with the run not till April anyone should be able to build up the required fitness for it.

Cold, muddy, wet ---- yes
Dangerous --- not in my mind (and well supervised)
Fun --- unbelivevably, couldn't stop smiling throughout.

bod1467

non-refundable

Unless the entry fee was a genuine pre-estimate of loss (costs) then that clause may be unfair hence unenforceable.

System

pjcox2005 wrote: »

The website is quite clear it's over 18 and non-refundable, non-transferable entrance fee so I don't think they have to do anything. That being said it's a well organised event so they may be generous if you contact them.

As an insight, it's billed as a supportive team event with the aim of completing rather than a fast time. The lake is cold, but I had no issue crossing despite not being a strong swimmer and there were lifeguards around. Likewise their is an option of avoiding it completely.

The 10k run is a reasonable distance but we have a couple of girls in our team who had only started running two months before and with the run not till April anyone should be able to build up the required fitness for it.

Cold, muddy, wet ---- yes
Dangerous --- not in my mind (and well supervised)
Fun --- unbelivevably, couldn't stop smiling throughout.

How long does it take to run? A normal 10k run takes around 50 minutes. I assume it takes a lot longer to do under these conditions?

kiss_me_now9

Now I want to do the Summer one