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Fridge3

JS477 wrote: »

As a follow up question to this does the "HCP" or "doctor" read any additional evidence that is submitted with the ESA50 for example hospital letters from the claimants consultant or GP's letters prior to a F2F assessment being considered.

Yes, if it's submitted with the ESA50. Typically claimants end up at tribunal because new evidence is introduced at that stage, rather than assessment stage, often substantial enough to be considered a almost a new claim.

ETA - ATOS Rep had it covered from their pov too.

Fridge3

JS477 wrote: »

As you say "The remit of the thread is questions about the Work Capability Assessment process" (not that you've answered any of them properly) so given that Atos "doctors" and "HCP" are involved in the WCA process how many "doctors" and "HCPs" have been reported to the GMC or Regulatory Bodies for carrying out sub-standard WCAs?


If you aren't allowed to divulge the numbers then perhaps as your sponsors have suggested you may like to post a link to where I can find out how many of your "HCPs" are under investigation!

FOI request should get you the info you require.

Fridge3

JS477 wrote: »

A classic and all too common example of what Atos are there for. Atos exist purely to throw people off their benefits by ignoring medical facts and just sticking to their DWP given targets. The taxpayer really is getting shafted by this profit driven company as shown by the 40'ish percent of successful appeals against the huge number of sub-standard WCAs

That "nice" DWP man Hoban said in a reply to the number of successful appeals.

"1,252,500 work capability assessments were undertaken on initial employment and support allowance cases in the period October 2008 to November 2011. Of these, DWP decision makers found 741,900 fit for work.

To date, 289,300 appeals have been heard against these Fit for Work decisions. 180,900 (63%) of the appeals heard were confirmed in the Department's favour, the remaining 108,400 (37%) were confirmed in the favour of the claimant."

So, using that data, at least 91.35% of WCA's are not sub-standard, even before taking account of those where tribunals have considered new evidence.

schrodie

JS477 wrote: »

As a follow up question to this does the "HCP" or "doctor" read any additional evidence that is submitted with the ESA50 for example hospital letters from the claimants consultant or GP's letters prior to a F2F assessment being considered.

The problem is that the so called Atos "healthcare professional" should at the Filework Stage request FME. However because of targets this rarely happens, Atos aren't there to pass any claimant they're there to fail you. This lack of following procedure leads to genuine sick and disabled people being denied ESA (the whole point of Atos) then if they have the strength to carry on with an appeal (or haven't died!!) they then submit the FME (which Atos should have requested in the first place) which when examined by the medical expert on the appeals panel overturns the sub-standard WCA previously carried out by Atos within minutes!

tonyw151

A question for the ATOS rep.

During my last WCA in may last year my partner who speaks alot for me due my issues with both articulation and anxiety was asked tobe quiet and let me answer. Is that right?

mazza111

isolation wrote: »

Oh my god!!! This stuff is too bizarre for words.
I got home today to find my partner really upset again after the success of her tribunal yesterday.
An ESA50 came through the door today !!!!
So it starts all over again - at least she had 20 hours of peace in between.

Dee
http://dwpnegligence.wordpress.com

Shocking:(

JS477

tonyw151 wrote: »

A question for the ATOS rep.

During my last WCA in may last year my partner who speaks alot for me due my issues with both articulation and anxiety was asked tobe quiet and let me answer. Is that right?

See Section 3.1.3.3 Here

During the MPs debate about the inhumane treatment handed out by Atos towards sick and disabled people this disgraceful practice was highlighted.

halight

isolation wrote: »

Oh my god!!! This stuff is too bizarre for words.
I got home today to find my partner really upset again after the success of her tribunal yesterday.
An ESA50 came through the door today !!!!
So it starts all over again - at least she had 20 hours of peace in between.

Dee
http://dwpnegligence.wordpress.com

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I'm sorry mate,
Hateful people at the DWP/ATOS that must have been sent out as or just before the tribunal !

halight

MSE_Andrea wrote: »

Hi JS477

I refer to Atos as it, not the Reps replying

:rotfl:
If you say so

beanielou

isolation~Did the tribunial not recommend a time for your partner to be in the support group?