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Withdraw winter fuel payment to pay for elderly care

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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Save £1.7bn.

    Total aid spending will rise from £8.65billion in the 2012-2013 financial year to £11.3billion in 2013-2014 – an increase of £2.65billion.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255852/Foreign-aid-Its-simply-cynical-ruthless-self-indulgent-job-says-scathing-study.html

    Do these people talk to each other?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Save £1.7bn.

    Total aid spending will rise from £8.65billion in the 2012-2013 financial year to £11.3billion in 2013-2014 – an increase of £2.65billion.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255852/Foreign-aid-Its-simply-cynical-ruthless-self-indulgent-job-says-scathing-study.html

    Do these people talk to each other?

    So if aid spending is going to increase, we should never look for savings?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    a lib dem MP worrying about the next election
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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Basically, instead of handing it over to all and sundry, only those on pension credit will get it (i..e those deemed low income). Not much admin involved in that really. It also doesn't penalise the truly vulnerable.

    What about those that just miss out on pension credit? Another child benefit !!!! up coming?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    So if aid spending is going to increase, we should never look for savings?

    If we can't afford WFA we can't afford foreign aid increases was the point of the post.

    Aggressively cutting foreign aid, rather than the lightweight reviews at present, would help on anumber of fronts, either towards deficit reduction , WFA, or care for the elderly.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Everyone else has lost benefits, child tax credits, funded tuition fee places etc, so I dont see why a bunch of affluent retirees should continue to receive a handout on top of all the other state benefits they get.
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    a lib dem MP worrying about the next election

    Bit late for that....
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    Depends where they draw the line.

    It's a little unfair on those who have saved for their retirement, often opting for a more frugal lifestyle so they could enjoy a reasonable standard of living in their old age.

    They already see those who earned a good wage but saved nothing enjoy pension credits and help with rent, council tax etc.

    What's the point of saving for your retirement if every benefit going is only handed out to those who didn't.
    If I don't reply to your post,
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  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Rinoa wrote: »
    Depends where they draw the line.

    It's a little unfair on those who have saved for their retirement, often opting for a more frugal lifestyle so they could enjoy a reasonable standard of living in their old age.

    They already see those who earned a good wage but saved nothing enjoy pension credits and help with rent, council tax etc.

    What's the point of saving for your retirement if every benefit going is only handed out to those who didn't.

    True. But you can say that about every kind of benefit. By that virtue its unfair on everyone who has a job and doesnt get income support as well.
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    Rinoa wrote: »
    Depends where they draw the line.

    It's a little unfair on those who have saved for their retirement, often opting for a more frugal lifestyle so they could enjoy a reasonable standard of living in their old age.

    They already see those who earned a good wage but saved nothing enjoy pension credits and help with rent, council tax etc.

    What's the point of saving for your retirement if every benefit going is only handed out to those who didn't.

    ... But we do get pension credit on our savings of £10 per week which is means tested although we are not eligible for Pension Credit. So we are fortunate as far as that goes and we appretiate it.

    I see others that have had a much better wage than I ever got and did not save and now, as you say, are getting all the credits going, the system has been abused by so many to the cost of others.
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