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ILW

The_White_Horse wrote: »

don't be a fool. the selfish people with no children, like you, should pay more tax, to make up for the fact they will be free loading off other people's kids for the last 20 years or more of their lives.

We do not need your kids.
It is much cheaper just to import people, where other countries have already paid for their upbringing and education.

smartn

The_White_Horse wrote: »

don't be a fool. the selfish people with no children, like you, should pay more tax, to make up for the fact they will be free loading off other people's kids for the last 20 years or more of their lives.

One can only assume that Johny Storm was a child once with parents who would have claimed that benefit he doesn't want others to have. Who knows, may be he even have had a free university education.

The_White_Horse

ILW wrote: »

We do not need your kids.
It is much cheaper just to import people, where other countries have already paid for their upbringing and education.

it would be cheaper still to just execute those with no kids when they can no longer provide for themselves. can even deduct the costs from their estate.

Wookster

The_White_Horse wrote: »

it would be cheaper still to just execute those with no kids when they can no longer provide for themselves. can even deduct the costs from their estate.

Just like DLW your posts get better with age. Keep up the good work.

Conrad

The_White_Horse wrote: »

it would be cheaper still to just execute those with no kids when they can no longer provide for themselves. can even deduct the costs from their estate.

You sound just like this ole boy I know from Sidmouth. Your'e not him are you!

He says thinks like 'if I were a judge I'd solve crime overnight. They'd get 1 warning where I'd tell em if I ever see em again, I'll throw away the key, simples'.

He also says things like 'all stress is self inflicted' and 'Brown nicked all our gold and my pension' (he's loaded btw).

You'd have a ball.:rotfl:

DavidF

The_White_Horse wrote: »

As an example - when you are 80 or so and in hospital - who do you think the doctors and nurses will be at that time? Other people's children. They will be looking after you. There is one benefit for you.

Also, when you are old, and scared, and thugs are breaking into your flat, you might call the police. those police will be other people's children.

other people's children will also collect your rubbish, provide meals on wheels, run shops where you might buy things.

In fact, every element of your life will rely 100% on other people's children.

Apart from that, there is no benefit to you at all.

But If ANY of these things even exist when I reach an old age I will pay them privately. I may even choose to go abroad where my cash allows me more "services" for my £. And the fact that I will have already paid for these services through tax and ni contributions. Add my pension into the mix, Sorry but I still don't agree with your argument.
Even if there is an NHS the odds tell me that it would NOT be a UK national either saving my life or wiping my @rse.
So onto the police force - Yeah they instil a fantastic feeling of cheerful well being into our current elderly. TBH I would rather employ my own security lol.
Saying that other peoples kids will "provide" these things is like implying the will do it for free in return for my tax educating them, feeding them, keeping them healthy ect ect.
Stick your brats up yer jacksie lol. I don't need them at all. Pay for your own.

**Disclaimer - part of my post is sarcastic and posted simply to point out the view from the other side of the fence. Good luck to anyone who chooses to have kids. Just don't try telling us that it's for our benefit.

BertieUK

DavidF wrote: »

But If ANY of these things even exist when I reach an old age I will pay them privately. I may even choose to go abroad where my cash allows me more "services" for my £. And the fact that I will have already paid for these services through tax and ni contributions. Add my pension into the mix, Sorry but I still don't agree with your argument.
Even if there is an NHS the odds tell me that it would NOT be a UK national either saving my life or wiping my @rse.
So onto the police force - Yeah they instil a fantastic feeling of cheerful well being into our current elderly. TBH I would rather employ my own security lol.
Saying that other peoples kids will "provide" these things is like implying the will do it for free in return for my tax educating them, feeding them, keeping them healthy ect ect.
Stick your brats up yer jacksie lol. I don't need them at all. Pay for your own.

**Disclaimer - part of my post is sarcastic and posted simply to point out the view from the other side of the fence. Good luck to anyone who chooses to have kids. Just don't try telling us that it's for our benefit.

It seems to me that you probably would be better off going to live outwith the UK as you really do not have the need for our services.

Why should you have to pay for something that you do not use?

You must be quite an indepent person and I hope that when you are old and grey like me you will reflect on this present time in your life and wonder where you went wrong, why you are alone etc No grandkids to play with or maybe annoy you.

You then can watch tv on your OLED tv (organic light emitting diode) without interuption. Just a little humour that I hope that will not offend you)

The very best of luck to you I hope that it works out for you.

DavidF

BertieUK wrote: »

It seems to me that you probably would be better off going to live outwith the UK as you really do not have the need for our services.

Why should you have to pay for something that you do not use?

You must be quite an indepent person and I hope that when you are old and grey like me you will reflect on this present time in your life and wonder where you went wrong, why you are alone etc No grandkids to play with or maybe annoy you.

You then can watch tv on your OLED tv (organic light emitting diode) without interuption. Just a little humour that I hope that will not offend you)

The very best of luck to you I hope that it works out for you.

lol
Im far from alone. I just don't have kids. I have a OH (misses not wed) I have a german shepherd. Oh I also have a pretty large family who unlike me have kids. So plenty of playing with youngsters. Plenty of baby sitting if and when required. I just don't get why people these days (esp if we agree the uk/world is over populated and over consumes) get "benefits/tax breaks/concessions for having kids." as I said above after WW2 there was a need but now ????

The reality of the situation is I actually believe in society. So it therefore goes han in hand that I really don't mind paying these "social tax's". But what gets me is some people think they are doing the world a favour by popping out a few kids lol. These same people moan about the tax THEY pay and yet they are probably net gainers from the whole system. So most of my above ranting were really "for the sake of discussion". It also winds me up to witness the working classes fight each other over the scraps while the really rich sit back and laugh their @rses off at us.

The way I see it is we are working class. We will always pay tax, Supporting cuts to our benefits/services rights ect is like asking a turkey to vote for xmas. But unbelievably we all seem to meekly vote for/allow just that reality for us. The trick is they have conned a lot of us into thinking we are not working class.

BertieUK

DavidF wrote: »

lol
Im far from alone. I just don't have kids. I have a OH (misses not wed) I have a german shepherd. Oh I also have a pretty large family who unlike me have kids. So plenty of playing with youngsters. Plenty of baby sitting if and when required. I just don't get why people these days (esp if we agree the uk/world is over populated and over consumes) get "benefits/tax breaks/concessions for having kids." as I said above after WW2 there was a need but now ????

The reality of the situation is I actually believe in society. So it therefore goes han in hand that I really don't mind paying these "social tax's". But what gets me is some people think they are doing the world a favour by popping out a few kids lol. These same people moan about the tax THEY pay and yet they are probably net gainers from the whole system. So most of my above ranting were really "for the sake of discussion". It also winds me up to witness the working classes fight each other over the scraps while the really rich sit back and laugh their @rses off at us.

The way I see it is we are working class. We will always pay tax, Supporting cuts to our benefits/services rights ect is like asking a turkey to vote for xmas. But unbelievably we all seem to meekly vote for/allow just that reality for us. The trick is they have conned a lot of us into thinking we are not working class.

Quite an interesting lifestyle you have and an unusual sense of humour to go with it, and a wit that feeds from winding up certain individuals on this Forum, which could prove very interesting.

I am so glad that you are not alone and that you have within your family the best friend you could ever wish for your German Shepherd as I do, she is my best friend only second to my wife, Mystic Meg.

You have most certainly weaved quite a web of interest and they just cannot make you out, or understand what makes you tick. I must run now and mix my potion of coctails and see what happens. Take care.

The_White_Horse

DavidF wrote: »

But If ANY of these things even exist when I reach an old age I will pay them privately. I may even choose to go abroad where my cash allows me more "services" for my £. And the fact that I will have already paid for these services through tax and ni contributions. Add my pension into the mix, Sorry but I still don't agree with your argument.
Even if there is an NHS the odds tell me that it would NOT be a UK national either saving my life or wiping my @rse.
So onto the police force - Yeah they instil a fantastic feeling of cheerful well being into our current elderly. TBH I would rather employ my own security lol.
Saying that other peoples kids will "provide" these things is like implying the will do it for free in return for my tax educating them, feeding them, keeping them healthy ect ect.
Stick your brats up yer jacksie lol. I don't need them at all. Pay for your own.

**Disclaimer - part of my post is sarcastic and posted simply to point out the view from the other side of the fence. Good luck to anyone who chooses to have kids. Just don't try telling us that it's for our benefit.

yes, but all these people you will be paying privately are other peoples' children. it doesn't matter if they do it for free or if you pay them - the person wiping your backside will be someone elses child.