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how will benefits be affected if my asylumseeker boyfriend movesin.
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I don't know the current position but at one time they could get leave to work if they fitted certain criteria, skilled workers etc.
Not all Romanians and Bulgarians are criminals, the ones I know are fine. They don't beg they have legitimate jobs, the work hard and send money home to families.
Bulgarians and Romanians have been able to work in the UK since 2007, but they need permission (they need to be doing certain jobs or an employer has to apply for authorisation). There are Romanians working in the NHS in Cardiff -- if the ones I met are still here. (Yes, they were fine!) ETA They were here before 2007, they'd have had the same rights as non-EU migrants.0 -
You can't change your status in country. He needs to leave and apply for the spouse visa in his home country. There are also financial requirements as well to sponsor.His presence will effectively be ignored. You won't get any more benefits but as he doesn't earn anything then your benefits won't reduce. Why don't you marry him? I'm assuming as you are on benefits then you can marry him and sponsor him to stay in the UK. Marriage doesn't have to cost much just a visit to the registry office should be enough.0 -
We visited a large French supermarket in Calais after going to Euro Disney. Across the car park was some kind of detention centre (or police station, can't remember 100% tbh)) where a few weeks before armed police had been patrolling it after a riot with refugees.Likely to be true because its easier to get in to those countries. Britain is harder to get in unless you fly in, which many try by sneaking into the landing bay of the aircraft. I still am not sure how they end up in EU countries in the first place but I guess they must hitch hike across Asia in trucks.
The coach driver was paranoid about stopping anywhere near Calais as apparently it's not unknown for refugees to stow themselves in the luggage holds of coaches to come across the Channel. There were tents pitched all over the place, never seen a single woman, all men youngish looking.0 -
They don't need permission anymore. It's all changedBulgarians and Romanians have been able to work in the UK since 2007, but they need permission (they need to be doing certain jobs or an employer has to apply for authorisation). There are Romanians working in the NHS in Cardiff -- if the ones I met are still here. (Yes, they were fine!) ETA They were here before 2007, they'd have had the same rights as non-EU migrants.
Experts are warning of a 'significant spike' of newcomers when limitations on coming to Britain, which have been imposed on the citizens of the two countries by the European Union, are lifted at the end of next year0 -
zoominatorone wrote: »They don't need permission anymore. It's all changed
Experts are warning of a 'significant spike' of newcomers when limitations on coming to Britain, which have been imposed on the citizens of the two countries by the European Union, are lifted at the end of next year
Big question is, will they come to work or to claim benefits and council houses ? If they come to work are there jobs ? Not according to the posters in this forum, even Mcdonalds has no jobs to offer. So if they come in their thousands will they be faced with a different world to what they imagined UK to be ? We will probably never know.0 -
You really do not know much about how asylum seekers work do you ?
Not my words, but a quote from an expert's research on asylum seekers.If there is a genuine asylum seeker he/she would fly in to Britain and claim asylum and go through normal procedures. If someone has got wind of the benefits system here in UK via their chums already here, they would live in tents in Calais and try to sneak in via lorries despite them being in a country where there is no thread to their life.
An expert whose facts and opinions I am far more inclined to trust than a person who has an obvious anti-asylum agenda, such as you.0 -
zoominatorone wrote: »traffiking of kids and women for brothels over here etc.......gonna be great innit?
Until now, migrants from the two former communist nations (officially barred from working or claiming benefits in Britain until the freedom of movement rule comes in on January 1, 2014) have neatly exploited a gaping loophole in the EU rules.
It allows Bulgarians and Romanians claiming to be self-employed to get a British national insurance number and a raft of hand-outs, including housing and child benefit.
Many of the new arrivals have worked hard, cornering the market in car-wash companies, for instance.
But others are less industrious, and include Roma gipsies who, remarkably, now sell a third of all copies of the Big Issue.
Even selling one copy a week of the magazine (created to help the British homeless) miraculously gives them self-employed status and allows them to beg with impunity outside shops and on street corners.
Bulgarian and Romanian incomers have been blamed by police in their own countries and in Britain for a massive rise in organised crime, including the trafficking of children to Britain to beg, pickpocket, milk state benefits and even enter the sex trade.
well said, and as usual the daily mail tells the truth0 -
Not my words, but a quote from an expert's research on asylum seekers.
An expert whose facts and opinions I am far more inclined to trust than a person who has an obvious anti-asylum agenda, such as you.
"Experts" hardly ever even go near asylum seekers nor do they interact with them in any way. They are just pen pushers in some organisation paid to push out stats every now and then based on what the government wants to be published.
I will leave this link here for you to look at.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3077663.stm0 -
MissMoneypenny wrote: »Oh dear. I wouldn't like to be in your shoes when you explain to your wife what your refusal to pay for a spouse visa, now means for her under the new rules.
well, we didnt refuse to pay for a visa.
we paid £475 for an unmarried couples visa in 2009/2010. and was refused as the application went through a day late she was considered an overstayer and also as grounds as i had claimed jsa for a couple of months (as a single persons rate) - as we were living together she was named as a partner (note: we (I) made it clear that she had no recourse etc, and only a single rate was in payment)... they said she had claimed public funds (as her name was on the claim also).
then when we got married in 2011 the sposal visa was declined also. with a statement stating there was nothing stopping me from living in Indonesia with my wife.
- It is not as simple as you would believe to get a visa... but the problem is... isnt this just racism off the government...
its ok if MP's etc say "we can treat you differently because you werent born here" but if we pop down to tescos and tell somebody "go back home" we get arrested etc...
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also, NOT ALL NHS treatment is not considered as PUBLIC FUNDS...
and certainly not giving birth... Esp when the child is considered british...
WE already went through that part of the system in late 2009 when our daughter was born 0 -
"Experts" hardly ever even go near asylum seekers nor do they interact with them in any way. They are just pen pushers in some organisation paid to push out stats every now and then based on what the government wants to be published.
You are arrogant enough to assume that this particular expert has not been near any asylum seekers without knowing whether or not that is the case. Besides, I doubt that the government particularly wanted that essay to be published as it doesn't tow the daily Mail line.I will leave this link here for you to look at.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3077663.stm
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