Not 'doing' Santa - part two

Xebnotlaw_2

skintchick wrote: »

On Christmas Eve she chose where she wanted to hang it, then we sprinkled imaginary magic dust over the bag while saying 'Magic, magic, one, two, three, Bring lots of lovely presents for me'.

Madison - That ^^ is a lie. Again, contradictory.

Spendless

Poppy9 wrote: »

I personally think children only buy into and get excited by the idea of Father Christmas from age about 5-8. Before that they are not really sure what to make of it and after 8 they are starting to question.

From experience of my 2, I'd agree with these as the ages of belief. This year, my 9 3/4 really wanted to go along with the pretence, to the extent that she looked up all the reindeer's names from The Night Before Christmas book wrote them out seperately and put a slice of carrot by each name:D and she was mad with her older brother for swiping them to feed their pet rabbit with.:eek::rotfl: By Boxing Day she'd got over her pretence, and wanted to know where and how I'd got x and how I'd managed to conceal certain presents from her.

Sambucus_Nigra

I'm not a Christmassy person but denying kids the magic of Christmas whilst - saying that 'Fairy Dust Magic' is what brings your presents...smacks of total lunacy.

Poppy9

skintchick wrote: »

Nope, Ada, it was just a follow on to the other thread (not started by me) which had a lot of discussion. And I don't intend to have all that discussion again here. People are welcome to find and read that thread or not, but I'm not going to repeat what I said on there, here.

I didn't put this on the end of that thread as by the end it was more about honesty and truthfulness than not doing Father Christmas.

Discuss or not as you all see fit, I won't be repeating my original comments, nor defending my position or what I do.

All I can say is that make believe is VERY different to telling your children FC is an absolute, and that the magic and joy that people attribute to FC is quite clearly achieveable in other ways, via make believe and pretend that is honest (DD knows the gifts are from me and OH).

That was the point, just to follow up on those accusations from the other thread. Any discussion ought really to follow on from that rather than repeat, but I'm not going to comment further, just read (maybe). I am pretty certain I have covered any questions previously, on the first thread (with same title so easy to find).

I really don't see why you started this thread then! You knew the whole FC thing and children was a contentious issue, yet you start a new thread, knowing (as you've been on this forum long enough) that people would start debating whether your lie about magic was better/worse than the lie about FC.

Did you think that people would suddenly say that yours was a better idea? It isn't going to happen as millions of parents have kept the FC tradition going, because that what FC is a Xmas tradition. Parents find their own way of coping with explaining the inequalities of presents that FC brings i.e. some say they give him money, others that he only brings 2 or 3 gifts and they provide the rest, but you will find in schools, friends homes etc that FC is real to many children, as real as magic is.

Ada_Doom

oh have just seen you are not going to answer any more and have directed us to an earlier thread in which you answered all possible questions. So this is a kinda, just telling us stuff type of thread? Obvs you are not going to answer that so I am going to assume that is the case. Bit dogmatic imao...

madison-nyc

Xebnotlaw wrote: »

Madison - That ^^ is a lie. Again, contradictory.

i know , i don't agree with her in the slightest and had already posted a bit further up to say so. i was just stating what her original point was from the first thread for those that hadn't seen it.

Xebnotlaw_2

The term one sandwich short of a picnic basket springs to mind. I am actually slapping my own forehead in amazement.

Well OP, here is your 5 minutes of forum fame. Enjoy!

claire16c

I'd probably 'lie' to my kids about Santa, however I don't think most children believe it in for very long anyway. When they're under 3 it's hard for them to understand and when I was at school no one after the age of about 6 really believed anymore because they'd either worked it out for themselves, or if not their friend told them! I know z couple of kids who are 8 and say they believe but I find it hard to believe they really do, and aren't just playing along by that age.

Mind you some children I've known pretended to their parents they did believe as they were scared they wouldn't get presents otherwise!

I think young children can definitely know that some things are just ' make believe'.

Poppy9

I wonder how long it will be, before the OP asks the mods to lock this thread!

I have to admit it really pees me off when the OP starts a thread then bows out quickly when it doesn't go the way they want.

peachyprice

skintchick wrote: »

So this year we did her what we called a Santa Sack, but she knew the presents were from Mummy and Daddy.

On Christmas Eve she chose where she wanted to hang it, then we sprinkled imaginary magic dust over the bag while saying 'Magic, magic, one, two, three, Bring lots of lovely presents for me'.

So you did do Santa then, just with your own gimme, gimme gimme poem to go with it.

Priceless.