Why does the UK close so early?

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

But the point that you are missing, is that the consumer is spending their £100 in the shop that is open at the time that they can spend it, and are not spending it in the shop that is closed.

Spending £100
at a cost of what to the retailer?
The retailer doesnt make £100 from that
being open and making sales doesnt make profit a certainty

I was out and about yesterday in town.
passed a little Italian restaurant that was packed(Edinburgh centre is busy on Christmas day),2 doors up the chinese restaurant was deserted

Altarf

custardy wrote: »

Spending £100
at a cost of what to the retailer?
The retailer doesnt make £100 from that
being open and making sales doesnt make profit a certainty

At the cost of not making anything if they are not open to sell things.

Being closed it is certain that you won't make any sales.

There are shops in my town that I have never spent any money in since they are always closed when I go past. They are closed when I pass by at 7am on the way to the station, and are closed again when I pass by again at 6pm. Fair enough that they don't want the income from the thousands of commuters that are heading to and from the railway station every day, and are perfectly happy to let Tesco take their money.

custardy wrote: »

I was out and about yesterday in town.
passed a little Italian restaurant that was packed(Edinburgh centre is busy on Christmas day),2 doors up the chinese restaurant was deserted

Obviously early in the morning, as I fail to understand the point that you are making, other than people prefer to eat Italian food to Chinese food in Edinburgh.

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

At the cost of not making anything if they are not open to sell things.

Being closed it is certain that you won't make any sales.

There are shops in my town that I have never spent any money in since they are always closed when I go past. They are closed when I pass by at 7am on the way to the station, and are closed again when I pass by again at 6pm. Fair enough that they don't want the income from the thousands of commuters that are heading to and from the railway station every day, and are perfectly happy to let Tesco take their money.



Obviously early in the morning, as I fail to understand the point that you are making, other than people prefer to eat Italian food to Chinese food in Edinburgh.

you seem to fail to see the point it costs money to open up

Altarf

custardy wrote: »

you seem to fail to see the point it costs money to open up

No that is the precise point that you seem to fail to grasp.

There is no point being open if it is not at a time convenient for your customers, as they will just go elsewhere and spend their money.

So you open up at an inconvenient time so nobody comes in to spend, but it has cost you money to open.

Or you open at a time that is convenient for your customers, costing the same amount of money, and they do come in and spend, and you make money.

For example, my local Royal Mail sorting office is open 8am to 12pm. When I buy something from Amazon this is not convenient, so I use Amazon lockers which are available all the time.

Royal Mail still pays staff to open at the inconvenient times, but now doesn't get any income.

pineapple

With respect I think you have to trust business owners to know their own market. I don't know any owners who choose to shut at times when they could be raking up a mint! :rotfl:
If businesses are closed at certain times - whatever the outsiders perception of the business they could be doing - I think you'll find that they have realised through experience - that the profit just doesn't make it worth them opening up.
Alternatively it might just be that they make a nice little earner in their chosen hours .

Altarf

pineapple wrote: »

With respect I think you have to trust business owners to know their own market.

If only that were true.

There is a never ending supply of examples of businesses that fail due to the blinkered approach of their owners, whilst other businesses in the same line who do do adapt and change go from strength to strength.

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They are open far to long now, I cant come to terms with shopping being a hobby. A real pain having sunday opening, the roads used to be quite and hardly any lorries, now there are other people out at the same time as me

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

No that is the precise point that you seem to fail to grasp.

There is no point being open if it is not at a time convenient for your customers, as they will just go elsewhere and spend their money.

So you open up at an inconvenient time so nobody comes in to spend, but it has cost you money to open.

Or you open at a time that is convenient for your customers, costing the same amount of money, and they do come in and spend, and you make money.

For example, my local Royal Mail sorting office is open 8am to 12pm. When I buy something from Amazon this is not convenient, so I use Amazon lockers which are available all the time.

Royal Mail still pays staff to open at the inconvenient times, but now doesn't get any income.

Sorry but using RM as an example compared to business is pointless
remove RMs legal requirements
then you can
BTW,do you know RM deliver to Amazon lockers?
opening the callers office generates little to no income
given you are business driven I thought you would have seen that

Altarf

custardy wrote: »

opening the callers office generates little to no income

Incorrect.

If people cannot collect their parcels, next time they will use an alternative carrier or method of purchase. So there will be no future income for Royal Mail.

Given you are business driven, I thought you would have seen that.

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

Incorrect.

If people cannot collect their parcels, next time they will use an alternative carrier or method of purchase. So there will be no future income for Royal Mail.

Given you are business driven, I thought you would have seen that.

well thats your opinion. you made a statement of RM not getting money from you,then described using Amazon lockers.....
however RM offer various methods of delivery,redelivery etc
you seem to be driving on a tangent towards RM
which is pointless
RM have legal requirements that lead to the business being based around certain times
outwith that it involves staffing an office purely for collections
big offices do it because its feasible
with smaller offices the costs are too high
my old office is open 12 hours a day during the week
however thats not the debate here.
If you are happy to remove RMs legal requirement then you can start comparing them to a 'normal' business