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Universal Jobmatch - Mandatory from next year

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  • keithrgj wrote: »
    its allright moaning saying do what the job centre tells you to do, but when that is an unlawful instruction, that makes a mockery out of judicial function through political dogma

    Unlawful? Please elaborate.
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  • keithrgj
    keithrgj Posts: 162 Forumite
    the whole process of signing up for the universal job match site through threats of sanction are not MANDATORY

    telling people they have to apply for 30 jobs a day or be sanctioned is unlawful

    the data protection act issues are that you cannot be forced to give access to your electronic communications with threat of a sanction unless statutory requirement dictates it.

    this is contained not only under the data protection act 1998, but also the recent directive from Europe on accepting tracking cookies and artical 8 on the European convention of human rights

    the statutory legislation the government has to abide by is [FONT=&quot]Regulation 18 of The Jobseeker’s Allowance Regulations 1996

    there are no amendments to this legislation about it being compulsory to sign up for the universal job site or applying for up to thirty jobs a day.

    in fact it states

    [/FONT] Steps to be taken by persons actively seeking employment 18.—(1) For the purposes of section 7(1) (actively seeking employment) a person shall be expected to have to take more than one step on one occasion in any week unless taking one step on one occasion is all that it is reasonable for that person to do in that week.


    be it you agree with it or not, that is the statutory authority we have to abide by, even Herr smith cant twist that
  • keithrgj wrote: »
    the whole process of signing up for the universal job match site through threats of sanction are not MANDATORY

    telling people they have to apply for 30 jobs a day or be sanctioned is unlawful

    the data protection act issues are that you cannot be forced to give access to your electronic communications with threat of a sanction unless statutory requirement dictates it.

    this is contained not only under the data protection act 1998, but also the recent directive from Europe on accepting tracking cookies and artical 8 on the European convention of human rights

    the statutory legislation the government has to abide by is [FONT=&quot]Regulation 18 of The Jobseeker’s Allowance Regulations 1996

    there are no amendments to this legislation about it being compulsory to sign up for the universal job site or applying for up to thirty jobs a day.

    in fact it states

    [/FONT] Steps to be taken by persons actively seeking employment 18.—(1) For the purposes of section 7(1) (actively seeking employment) a person shall be expected to have to take more than one step on one occasion in any week unless taking one step on one occasion is all that it is reasonable for that person to do in that week.


    be it you agree with it or not, that is the statutory authority we have to abide by, even Herr smith cant twist that

    Hmmm...

    I'd be interested to hear where you think a Job Seekers Agreement (and the wording of it) fits into this process.
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  • kizz79
    kizz79 Posts: 23 Forumite
    Im wetting myself laughing at this thread, hilarious boys keep it up, its good for morale!
  • keithrgj
    keithrgj Posts: 162 Forumite
    edited 4 January 2013 at 12:49AM
    the job seekers agreement is just that an agreement

    it holds no statutory authority in law

    an agreement is a two way process

    you do not have to agree to the terms,

    [FONT=&quot]The Jobseeker’s Allowance Regulations 1996[/FONT] is the statutory instrament, the job seekers agreement is not statutory and cannot be used to override statutory requirement.
    be it the job seekers allowance regulations or the data protection act
  • keithrgj wrote: »
    the job seekers agreement is just that an agreement

    it holds no statutory authority in law

    an agreement is a two way process

    you do not have to agree to the terms,

    [FONT=&quot]The Jobseeker’s Allowance Regulations 1996[/FONT] is the statutory instrament, the job seekers agreement is not statutory and cannot be used to override statutory requirement.
    be it the job seekers allowance regulations or the data protection act


    Hmmm...

    Strange......because I understood that if the JSAG is not agreed to and signed by both parties, it gets sent off to the Decision section to be reviewed? Unless/until the matter is resolved, I understood you cannot receive any benefit at all, because no JSAG = no claim? Suppose your adviser makes reference to using UJ on your JSAG?

    But you obviously know more about this than I do :)

    It will be interesting to see how the new guidance for JCP staff is worded.
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  • krok
    krok Posts: 358 Forumite
    To Johnnynosteps

    5 minutes work = £142 lovely

    42" plasma tv = lovely

    A full drinks cupboard = lovely

    Winding up Johnnynosteps = Out of this world.

    Keep up with your grafting Johnnynosteps. My hard earned money has just arrived.

    DWP just approved my crisis loan. Thanks Johnnynosteps, i will be having a drink on you this afternoon with all my well off benefit buddies.

    Cheers. :rotfl::beer::rotfl:
  • krok can you give me some tips on getting a crisis loan that big? :beer: Johnnynosteps you are an excellent example of all that is wrong with the jcp you will deny this i know but you are obviously so jaded from working there that you prejudge everyone who is on the DOLE to be work shy layabouts we aren't most work shy layabouts scam the sick instead :rotfl: so my sugestion to you would be a change of career hang on wait a min there are no decent jobs available :mad: well maybe you should take a really shxt one that would put you in a worse situation than your in now seeing as thats what you spend your days pushing other people to do !!! :mad:
  • koiboy
    koiboy Posts: 151 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Johnnynosteps brainwashed daily mail reader ???
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