I quit my job, can I get any benefits?

Sommer43

Having read this thread, I am amazed at how many people do not consider that stealing from an employer is a serious matter. Now, it does appear (and am well aware this is an older thread) the employer has not pressed charges. We have not been furnished with the facts surrounding the end of his employment. However, I would say it is highly unlikely the OP would be able to have a reference from his previous employer.

Had the employer prosecuted you, which he/she was well within their rights to, you would have likely been found guilty. You would have been dealt with at the magistrate's courts, not crown. You wouldn't have gone to prison, but you would have a criminal conviction against you. Which, despite the rehabilitation of offenders act 1974 being in place, many employers are exempt from this act and this is where you would have run into problems. Even when spent, your conviction would have showed up on a CRB check. And nobody wants to employ a convicted thief. It might have only been £30, but a thief is a label that is very hard to lose. The British are well known for their opinions on thieves and fraudsters, the British do not go easy on these people and even a petty thief is labelled for life.

I'd say your previous employer gave you a lucky break. Take it, use it wisely.

justlooking2012

Sommer43 wrote: »

Having read this thread, I am amazed at how many people do not consider that stealing from an employer is a serious matter. Now, it does appear (and am well aware this is an older thread) the employer has not pressed charges. We have not been furnished with the facts surrounding the end of his employment. However, I would say it is highly unlikely the OP would be able to have a reference from his previous employer.

Had the employer prosecuted you, which he/she was well within their rights to, you would have likely been found guilty. You would have been dealt with at the magistrate's courts, not crown. You wouldn't have gone to prison, but you would have a criminal conviction against you. Which, despite the rehabilitation of offenders act 1974 being in place, many employers are exempt from this act and this is where you would have run into problems. Even when spent, your conviction would have showed up on a CRB check. And nobody wants to employ a convicted thief. It might have only been £30, but a thief is a label that is very hard to lose. The British are well known for their opinions on thieves and fraudsters, the British do not go easy on these people and even a petty thief is labelled for life.

I'd say your previous employer gave you a lucky break. Take it, use it wisely.

Very good post, unfortunately though the bleeding hearts on this particular part of the forum do not seem to find anything wrong with it and are no doubt thinking in their heads its societies faults.

DCFC79

stevethos wrote: »

I worked in retail for 5 years as a member of management. Money was tight, so I stole some (£30), and I got caught. I got called into the office and told I could either resign or an investigation would be opened and the police involved. I resigned.

Today I applied for JSA and housing benefit online. I was unaware of all this "no benefits for you if you quit your job LOL" business, so when asked for my reason for leaving, I put "I resigned pending the result of an investigation". I've since been told that I'm a numpty and shouldn't of said that I quit. I'm now waiting for the phone call to tell me to go to the job centre and have my interview with them.

Bring on the judgement, I know I deserve it. I shouldn't have stolen anything, I know I don't deserve any benefits, etc. But what do I do? I have rent, bills, car insurance to pay. I don't have anywhere to shack up or any family I can move in with. If my landlord doesn't get his rent, I essentially get put on the street.

I'm genuinely concerned now. I didn't think twice about quitting because I hadn't been unemployed for going on 10yrs and thought finding a new job would be an easy task. I was wrong, it's proving quite difficult.

Any and all help is appreciated.

Future ref

Anny_2

DCFC79 wrote: »

Future ref

Why have you re-hashed this thread, for what purpose?

joanne79

I'm guessing it was meant to be on the other thread maybe ?

Caitlin_Bree

I'm sure many will be itching to cast aspersions on my morals but when someone boiled it down to "credit rating or honesty" my thoughts were "As nice as being honest is, I'm pretty sure no financial institution is willing to accept my sworn word that I'll pay any money loaned, back".
I can sort of see why someone would find proof of payments made, to be more necessary than nice words about their integrity.

"The British are well known for their opinions on thieves and fraudsters" .. yes, we elect them.
*soapbox*



< PAYG Sagem brick circa 99.

DCFC79

Anny wrote: »

Why have you re-hashed this thread, for what purpose?

I quoted the post as what happens is posts tend to get deleted when the poster doesn't like the replies given

patacake58

DCFC79 wrote: »

I quoted the post as what happens is posts tend to get deleted when the poster doesn't like the replies given

Thats not a good answer.
The thread was finished. I suggest you quoted the post for future reference for your own agenda:p

helentay_2

stevethos wrote: »

Just to keep y'all in the loop:

I went for an interview at the job centre and was told to fill out an LV form (Left Voluntarily) and was warned that I could end up having to wait a while before seeing any sort of benefit. I filled out the form - which asked the reason why I left my previous job - as honestly as I could. I got £71 a week, but I missed out on back payment (1 week, because I didn't want to sign on immediately).

With the housing benefit, I got that too, but also still missed on back payment but I have made a separate application for that. Apparently not wanting to jump into the ranks of the unemployed as soon as humanly possible isn't a good enough reason for not signing on straight away. Next time I lose my job I won't wait a few days in the hopes I get lucky and land a new job sharpish.

As of right now, I started a new job on the 2nd Jan and all is going swimmingly. I do count myself lucky that A: I got JSA, B: I got (most of, so far) the housing benefit I needed, C: I have a very understanding landlord and I managed to land another job without any kind of reference from my previous employer (I said I left for personal reasons, and they weren't questioned).

Thanks again to the majority of you. Shame there's a bad egg in here but hey, that's life.

I would point you in the direction of the Fraud Act.



Clearly your actions in obtaining your new job have compounded your illegal activities, first under Section 4 of the Fraud Act 2006 and then under Section 3 of the Fraud Act 2006.

this is going from bad to worse!

Why do you continue to put at risk your liberty?

helentay_2

patwinning wrote: »

Never heard of rehabilitation of offenders?
Yes, of course there should be some sort of punishment. Well he's lost his job and struggling to survive. Isn't that punishment enough?

Yes you are expected to be rehabilitated, but only if you have been punished in a court of law.

Enough? Try telling that to the CPS if they ever get wind of what happened - need I say Fraud Act 2006 - Breach of Trust?