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civil parking notice, nhs hospital

zorro55
zorro55 Posts: 9 Forumite
edited 28 November 2012 at 6:15PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi

I work at UHCW in Coventry. On Monday 26/11/2012 on return too my car I had been issued by a CPN by the Car Parking Partnership.

I was parked on double red lines!

We had been sent an email on the day before, sunday, stating carpark No1 and the CSB car park were flooded due to the torrential rain and were not to be used.

Probably due to this statement, the car park I usually used was full!
It was getting late and I decided to drive round to the CSB carpark and park on the out side perimeter of the carpark on double red lines.

I didn't want to enter the CSB car park as I was fully aware through past experience how badly and quickly it could flood together with the warning not to park there.

Do you think I should appeal or simply ignore? (I was technically wrong.)
Any advice would be fully appreciated as I am a little confused by the current legislation.
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  • bondy_lad
    bondy_lad Posts: 1,001 Forumite
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    edited 28 November 2012 at 7:47PM
    here is your answer,,,IGNORE.its not legit,its not a fine,it is however a FAKE ticket/invoice,called a parking charge notice,which equates to loo paper,worry not,relax and dont fall for this SCAM.the genuine ticket is called a PENALTY charge notice,you dont have this,only the fake one,do not contact in any way shape or form, as they will believe ur hooked and keep pestering you for longer.
  • AlexisV
    AlexisV Posts: 1,890 Forumite
    Technically wrong? I think attempting to impose an unenforceable contractual penalty is technically wrongerer.

    Ignore em
  • I appreciate your prompt replies!
    I just assumed that the hospital would have some way of enforcing the parking regulations. As an employee, do you think the car parking partnership would be able to enforce the "invoice demand" by some form of deduction from my salary?
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    They cannot deduct anything from your salary, that would not be a legal deduction. This company is a third party the hospital/employer are not debt collectors. I presume you pay to park under some kind of permit scheme, so there is no loss to the hospital, so nothing to worry about.
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 150,673 Forumite
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    zorro55 wrote: »
    I appreciate your prompt replies!
    I just assumed that the hospital would have some way of enforcing the parking regulations. As an employee, do you think the car parking partnership would be able to enforce the "invoice demand" by some form of deduction from my salary?


    All discussed recently on this long thread - which ended with one of the Hospital Staff who posted, getting the fake PCN cancelled:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4227753

    then there was this thread:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4306835

    Like in that thread, all you have done is use a parking place you should not have used, and CPP presumably have signs to say that if a driver does this they'll get a fake PCN.

    There is no other remedy open to CPP except to take the driver to Small Claims if they reckon they have a case. They won't do that though because they don't know how and would lose. However I suggest you ready yourself for the pretty horrible/unlawful threatograms from PS&P and report them to anyone you can think of when they arrive:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4101777


    So you could ignore right now from the outset, or appeal, then appeal again to POPLA (Google it or search the forum please) then ignore again. But don't pay!'
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Having read my original post, I would like to clarify that I wasn't actually in the carpark, but parked on the outside of the car park, on the car park entrance road.

    ( Its very wide and I wasn't causing any form of obstruction!)

    Apologies for the confusion!

    Will this affect your advice to date in any way?
  • zorro55 wrote: »
    Having read my original post, I would like to clarify that I wasn't actually in the carpark, but parked on the outside of the car park, on the car park entrance road.

    ( Its very wide and I wasn't causing any form of obstruction!)

    Apologies for the confusion!

    Will this affect your advice to date in any way?
    Assuming that road is part of the hospital's land, i.e. it's not a public road, then it makes no difference at all.

    If it's a public road, then a private company slapping tickets on would be very bad for them.
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    If its a public road and a private company are putting tickets on vehicles, the brown stuff has seriously hit the fan, your complaint would be to trading standards and the local press, one of the regulars on here has done this and said company had to refund everyone ;)
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • I'm 99% sure the road belongs to the hospital. It is a "hospital back road" as described by the CPN ticket.

    The ticket states I was " parked in an unauthorised or restricted area"
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    Still you have not caused them any loss as you pay to park, is it your fault that they cannot provide what you've paid for ? I gather you weren't causing an obstruction that busses or ambulances couldn't get past, so ignore them
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
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