Bole Blasts Nimby Boomers with Brickbats

Percy1983

GeorgeHowell wrote: »

"Your picture sums up the generational conflict:"

There is no generational conflict. A minority of ageist losers with chips on their shoulders the size of sacks of King Edwards would like to stir one up. What will they do when they reach the age that the Baby Boomers are now ? Change tack and turn their attention to attacking the young ? Or move into static caravans and give their homes to their children ? Or perhaps come to their senses and cringe when they think back to what daft pillocks they were when they were young ?

Maybe they will let more houses be built so there children don't have to stuggle like they did?

ukcarper

It's not as simply as picking a green field site and building houses. Where I am the Doctors and Hospitals are already overstretched because a recent influx of immigrants and it is now proposed to build 3000 houses on a brown field site (an ideal site) but there are no planes to improve the infrastructure.

GeorgeHowell

"Maybe they will let more houses be built so there children don't have to stuggle like they did?"

And maybe they will mature, realise that there's more to life than iPads, fashionable clothes and stag/hen weeks, and that as well as having decent housing the overall quality of life depends also on retaining open space, areas of natural beauty etc, so that achieving a sensible balance as opposed to a planning free for all and a developer get-rich-quick environment is the right way to proceed.

Percy1983

GeorgeHowell wrote: »

"Maybe they will let more houses be built so there children don't have to stuggle like they did?"

And maybe they will mature, realise that there's more to life than iPads, fashionable clothes and stag/hen weeks, and that as well as having decent housing the overall quality of life depends also on retaining open space, areas of natural beauty etc, so that achieving a sensible balance as opposed to a planning free for all and a developer get-rich-quick environment is the right way to proceed.

They don't all fit together, I have matured as you say so see no need in ipads and designer clothes. I can also see the need for retaining open spaces etc. But I can also see a great need for more housing, so we need to build more which will lead to some loss of open spaces.

ruggedtoast

I seem to have neglected the link, which I've now added.

Since I posted this there is a slew of excitement about this new housing "Top Gun" Nick Boles. If he carries on like this it'll be Boles for PM before long, united by Gen X and Y who finally see a politician who is coming up with some policies not solely designed to please people born between 1946 and 1964.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/shortcuts/2012/nov/28/buildings-more-beautiful-than-nature?INTCMP=SRCH

Can buildings really be more beautiful than nature?

Nick Boles thinks so! In any case, an englishman and woman's home is their castle, and no one would begrudge building on another 2% of land to solve the housing crisis just because it might mean a development near them? Would they? No, surely not, you would have to be a legenday, king size, total horse's a$$ to think that.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/28/nick-boles-housing-build-on-countryside?INTCMP=SRCH

Nick Boles fait accompli: for housing you like, build on the countryside.

Yes thats right, the countryside, just as someone built on the countryside so you could have a home, they can do so so other people can have one. Not that hard to understand is it?

PaulF81

just wait till gen x/y realise how screwed they are over pensions and deficit spending on e nhs; the boomers will be back in the workhouse before long.

grizzly1911

RT post 106.

Nothing new Prezza was equally evangelical.

Just depends where it is.

With 42% grade1/3 agr. land, flood plains, national parks, economic wastelands north of Watford Gap, greenbelts that will be retained that little 2% is going to get severely squeezed into somewhere small.

Then the question is who is going to fund it all.

With ever increasing utility, fuel, energy and food costs (can't blame boomers for those) affordability becomes problematic.

Will house prices fall off a cliff? I very much doubt it.

GeorgeHowell

"I have matured as you say so see no need in ipads and designer clothes. I can also see the need for retaining open spaces etc. But I can also see a great need for more housing, so we need to build more which will lead to some loss of open spaces"

I think we are in agreement up to a point. There is a need for some open spaces to be used. But this should be to the extent possible with the community's agreement or at least acquiescence, not just where developers pick willy-nilly. And it's not just about land availability, in a slump developers may also be cautious about new builds in case they can't sell them for what they want.

GeorgeHowell

"just wait till gen x/y realise how screwed they are over pensions and deficit spending on e nhs; the boomers will be back in the workhouse before long"

With intelligent observations like that, this forum need have no fear of becoming dumbed down and puerile.

PaulF81

wait and see!

asfor new build, why not release decent plot sizes for self build? far more efficient use than giving it a developer.