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Bole Blasts Nimby Boomers with Brickbats
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the_flying_pig wrote: »right.
so 30 year olds born in [say] 1952 were enjoying exactly the same standard of housing as 30 years olds born in [say] 1982 are enjoying now, there's no difference at all?
sounds like there's not a problem then.
The difference lies mainly in the difficulty of raising deposits. We read the other day that 60% of first time buyers are helped by older family to help overcome this. This is the answer, not pushing those in their 60s or 70s into pokey granny flats because some of the young consider that "Their life is over, and it's our turn now."
I wonder how many of today's twentysomethings and thirtysomethings would be willing to make such sacrifices for their children if the situation were the same in thirty of forty years time.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
You could be considered to be an unlucky boomer then viv (wrt house prices).
You must have made a fair wedge during the 01-08 boom?
Unfortunately, If we look at the stereotypical boomer (ie the majority) they have benefitted from rapid house price rise and oppose new building.
Not strictly true & not fair.
Some of us paid much more to buy where further large-scale development isn't on the cards.
There are certain areas where more building cannot happen. It may be because the area is protected or the infrastructure could not cope. You can't keep putting more homes in areas where there's no mains water, for example.
Neither is it worth building large-scale where there are no opportunities for employment (talking all the time not just in recessions).
Some boomers live in cities & towns. Some believe that youngsters have a tough time.
Some have lived in their homes for decades (it was bought as a home & not a get-rich-quick investment). I know more people in their 40s who have played the property get-rich game than boomers.
There are those who think that they can buy a view which will never alter. If so, they're misguided. Even in the depths of protected countryside things like new agricultural barns & sheds get put up. The country has to live. Nobody has the right to an unchanging view unless they own everything as far as the eye can see. Even then they'll probably have the odd battle on their hands.
So, the boomers that some people here take issue with probably aren't even in the majority.
It's just another rather shabby form of discrimination by those who need to have someone to blame for not having their own home.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »How would the potential shortfall in IHT be recouped?
by cutting benefits and public sector salaries/pensions by the requisite amount. easy.0 -
Itismehonest wrote: »So, the boomers that some people here take issue with probably aren't even in the majority.
It's just another rather shabby form of discrimination by those who need to have someone to blame for not having their own home.
Quite right, there are nimbys in all generations I should think. Most people don't object to all new building, but just to indiscriminate building wherever developers and builders can make the most money, instead of achieving a proper balance between their requirements and the requirements of the community affected.
Some of the serially spoilt from today's younger generations, who lived like teenagers until the age of 30, are clearly experiencing for the first time in their lives a situation where they cannot just have what they want when they want it. Consequently the toys are coming out of the prams.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
The_White_Horse wrote: »by cutting benefits and public sector salaries/pensions by the requisite amount. easy.
But they are a cost only so why should any savings there just be passed to families with existing wealth?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
You could be considered to be an unlucky boomer then viv (wrt house prices).
You must have made a fair wedge during the 01-08 boom?
Unfortunately, If we look at the stereotypical boomer (ie the majority) they have benefitted from rapid house price rise and oppose new building.
I am confused, who were the first time buyers 1995-2001? I doubt there were many boomers in there. In addition who are the people that populate HPC with their STR attempt to treat the housing market like a roulette wheel?'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
I am confused, who were the first time buyers 1995-2001? I doubt there were many boomers in there. In addition who are the people that populate HPC with their STR attempt to treat the housing market like a roulette wheel?
Please, this is not a discussion about boomers. It is a discussion about house building.
Some people on this forum have an obsession with boomers that borders on the unhealthy.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »Please, this is not a discussion about boomers. It is a discussion about house building.
Some people on this forum have an obsession with boomers that borders on the unhealthy.
I wonder who that is.0 -
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ruggedtoast wrote: »Please, this is not a discussion about boomers. It is a discussion about house building.
Some people on this forum have an obsession with boomers that borders on the unhealthy.
Some people, presumably with too much time on their hands, have an obsession with perpetrating wind-ups on the internet which more than borders on the unhealthy -- it is unhealthy.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0
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