gap between classing dates and interview.

Savvy_Sue

brazilianwax wrote: »

I didn't know that the non-Director was a philosophy graduate because he seemed so normal!

:rotfl:

brazilianwax wrote: »

The reason I like him is because, like me, we operate on a common sense basis, and improving things is something we are both good at.

Common sense - that remarkably UNcommon quality!

Savvy_Sue

studentphil wrote: »

But I can not see it resulting in a proper career as library jobs are few and far between

That may be true, but ...

studentphil wrote: »

I don't have a degree in library science,

and you didn't have one of those when you worked in a library before, so what's that got to do with the price of fish? and

studentphil wrote: »

I can not see it leading anywhere.

so you'd rather choose NOT to apply for a job you've enjoyed in the past, in case it doesn't lead anywhere.

When I left Uni, I applied for the NHS fast track management scheme. I think I got through the initial assessments, and then thought "I don't think I'd enjoy this much." I ended up proof-reading, which was fantastic until I got a promotion to a job where I had no support dealing with difficult staff issues. It led somewhere all right - almost to a nervous breakdown!

Since then I don't think I've had a 'career', rather a series of jobs which I've enjoyed, more or less (just don't let's talk about bin lorries ...)

One more thing about libraries: many jobs are with local councils. (And I'm quite certain most of the librarians in the local libraries are NOT graduates!) And what have we said about local councils? Yes, they're very good on Equal Ops, they interview everyone who can DEMONSTRATE blah di blah di blah.

sevendayweekend, sometimes I think I stand more chance of my sons taking notice of my advice than I do of Phil doing so. But I think I keep going for similar reasons to you ...

studentphil

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

That may be true, but ...

and you didn't have one of those when you worked in a library before, so what's that got to do with the price of fish? and

so you'd rather choose NOT to apply for a job you've enjoyed in the past, in case it doesn't lead anywhere.

When I left Uni, I applied for the NHS fast track management scheme. I think I got through the initial assessments, and then thought "I don't think I'd enjoy this much." I ended up proof-reading, which was fantastic until I got a promotion to a job where I had no support dealing with difficult staff issues. It led somewhere all right - almost to a nervous breakdown!

Since then I don't think I've had a 'career', rather a series of jobs which I've enjoyed, more or less (just don't let's talk about bin lorries ...)

One more thing about libraries: many jobs are with local councils. (And I'm quite certain most of the librarians in the local libraries are NOT graduates!) And what have we said about local councils? Yes, they're very good on Equal Ops, they interview everyone who can DEMONSTRATE blah di blah di blah.

sevendayweekend, sometimes I think I stand more chance of my sons taking notice of my advice than I do of Phil doing so. But I think I keep going for similar reasons to you ...

My library work was only sticking labels in books, adding them to a database, and a bit of reshelving and odds and ends like unjamming printers. Real true librarians do far more important work like ordering books, do reports on book useage, budgets and membership work. Which I do not really know why you need a special degree to be able to do that, but it seems you do.

Library work seems like you have to be highly qualified to do by doing an MA library science. I think I would be more than upto to library work even if I don't have a special MA but it does seem that you need it nowadays. I will keep my eye out for library work as it is good enjoyable work if you can get it.

Sue, I am really shocked that the NHS would not employ you as I know you are a really able and a clever person. But you know that you probably have a more varied and important job in your charity as you are queen of everything than you be in the NHS as you would just be just one tiny cog in a huge place.

Savvy_Sue

studentphil wrote: »

My library work was only sticking labels in books, adding them to a database, and a bit of reshelving and odds and ends like unjamming printers. Real true librarians do far more important work like ordering books, do reports on book useage, budgets and membership work. Which I do not really know why you need a special degree to be able to do that, but it seems you do.

Library work seems like you have to be highly qualified to do by doing an MA library science. I think I would be more than upto to library work even if I don't have a special MA but it does seem that you need it nowadays. I will keep my eye out for library work as it is good enjoyable work if you can get it.

Phil, you do not have to apply for jobs as a Librarian. There are library assistants which sounds similar to the work you did which you enjoyed. Plus if you had experience as a library assistant you would immeasurably increase your chances of getting onto an MA in Librarianship.

Do you not think that jobs in bookshops would be similar to what you were doing in the library?

studentphil wrote: »

Sue, I am really shocked that the NHS would not employ you as I know you are a really able and a clever person. But you know that you probably have a more varied and important job in your charity as you are queen of everything than you be in the NHS as you would just be just one tiny cog in a huge place.

You misread my post. I applied to work with the NHS, and then decided I would not enjoy the scheme I'd applied for - too much pressure for me! Now I know you're going to take this the wrong way and not apply for jobs because you don't think you'll enjoy them, but at least start by looking at things you have ENJOYED doing!

And I'd be queen wherever I worked. I'm that good, 25 years on ... :rotfl:Mostly because I work my cotton socks off ...

studentphil

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Phil, you do not have to apply for jobs as a Librarian. There are library assistants which sounds similar to the work you did which you enjoyed. Plus if you had experience as a library assistant you would immeasurably increase your chances of getting onto an MA in Librarianship.

Do you not think that jobs in bookshops would be similar to what you were doing in the library?

You misread my post. I applied to work with the NHS, and then decided I would not enjoy the scheme I'd applied for - too much pressure for me! Now I know you're going to take this the wrong way and not apply for jobs because you don't think you'll enjoy them, but at least start by looking at things you have ENJOYED doing!

And I'd be queen wherever I worked. I'm that good, 25 years on ... :rotfl:Mostly because I work my cotton socks off ...

Alright then HRH Queen Sue, sorry I thought you meant you got through the first stage but no further because of the NHS not wanting you.

There is a huge range of work in the information area from book shops, to digitising newspaper archives, work in archive offices that are all very similar types of work that I think I could do.

I currently do intent to keep my eye out for library assistants jobs as it would be something that I would like to do.

nickyhutch

Emmzi wrote: »

Dog-sitting is a small income while you look for other work

I pay a lady to come and sit my cats while I'm away - she gets £14 to come and feed and clean them! Must take all of oooh.....20 minutes! Multiply that by however many clients...... thinking of setting up in competition:o

TOBRUK

Here we go again, phil you said yesterday that you are probably feeling down because you aren't getting enough sleep - why on earth were you on here until 12.30am AGAIN - two days running!

You are worried that you may have a 'bad' degree because of recent marks, well the only way you can redeem yourself and get a better degree is to get good marks in your finals and that is down to you! You need to get to bed earlier for a start and stop using this thread to escape and avoid revision.

You are still going on about what to do after you finish your degree - the reality is that the way you are going you won't have a degree worth mentioning and you are ruining your chances and prospects of what you refer as to a good job.

Your exams start in May, hello ... 1st May is next Tuesday, when will your panic set in and realisation that you have not prepared yourself - you are creating a situation for yourself where you will not perform to the best of your ability.

You say you have wasted 3 years on a course you don't really like - reality check - this is the end of the course, the course you chose and you can't change the past, deal with it and make the most of it now or you will have wasted 3 years which your future depends on and it will be you that will have thrown it away. For goodness sake phil this is the last lap, the final hurdle and then you will be free of the course you hate! Isn't it an incentive that working solid now could get you a better degree which will be over in just a few weeks??

Being on here day in day out for hours at a time will ruin your future at this point and it will be your own fault. I have a sneaky suspicion that all the while you are on here, your parents believe you are revising - that is the story you tell them! One reason you are feeling down is because you are avoiding your revision and as a result you know that you will perform badly in your exams - if you did some revision you would feel better in the knowledge that you are prepared for the exams.

I give up, I am exhausted by this thread as you are not listening to anyone. I can see you will be back here after your results with a sob story.

GET SOME WORK DONE!

studentphil

TOBRUK wrote: »

Here we go again, phil you said yesterday that you are probably feeling down because you aren't getting enough sleep - why on earth were you on here until 12.30am AGAIN - two days running!

You are worried that you may have a 'bad' degree because of recent marks, well the only way you can redeem yourself and get a better degree is to get good marks in your finals and that is down to you! You need to get to bed earlier for a start and stop using this thread to escape and avoid revision.

You are still going on about what to do after you finish your degree - the reality is that the way you are going you won't have a degree worth mentioning and you are ruining your chances and prospects of what you refer as to a good job.

Your exams start in May, hello ... 1st May is next Tuesday, when will your panic set in and realisation that you have not prepared yourself - you are creating a situation for yourself where you will not perform to the best of your ability.

You say you have wasted 3 years on a course you don't really like - reality check - this is the end of the course, the course you chose and you can't change the past, deal with it and make the most of it now or you will have wasted 3 years which your future depends on and it will be you that will have thrown it away. For goodness sake phil this is the last lap, the final hurdle and then you will be free of the course you hate! Isn't it an incentive that working solid now could get you a better degree which will be over in just a few weeks??

Being on here day in day out for hours at a time will ruin your future at this point and it will be your own fault. I have a sneaky suspicion that all the while you are on here, your parents believe you are revising - that is the story you tell them! One reason you are feeling down is because you are avoiding your revision and as a result you know that you will perform badly in your exams - if you did some revision you would feel better in the knowledge that you are prepared for the exams.

I give up, I am exhausted by this thread as you are not listening to anyone. I can see you will be back here after your results with a sob story.

GET SOME WORK DONE!

My normal bed time is 2.30 am- 3.30 am so 12.30 is fairly early for me. I have worked it out that I have got 70 credits of my degree still to work for. That is 2 exams and 3 essays to do. I doubt I can get a full a 2:1 out from those but I will have a go. In fact I did not know I had so much of my degree still on the table I thought it was far less than that as a couple of exams and a few essays does not seem like so much of a degree for some reason.

I am doing some revision at the moment and working on those essays from too.

I thought a 2:1 might have been on but getting a 56 (2:1 is 60) in my last essay would mean that I would have to get a 67, which is almost a first, in one of my exams to still stand a chance at a 2:1. I think to expect to get a first in an exam is asking an awful lot but we shall see.

TOBRUK

studentphil wrote: »

My normal bed time is 2.30 am- 3.30 am so 12.30 is fairly early for me. I have worked it out that I have got 70 credits of my degree still to work for. That is 2 exams and 3 essays to do. I doubt I can get a full a 2:1 out from those but I will have a go. In fact I did not know I had so much of my degree still on the table I thought it was far less than that as a couple of exams and a few essays does not seem like so much of a degree for some reason.

I am doing some revision at the moment and working on those essays from too.

I thought a 2:1 might have been on but getting a 56 (2:1 is 60) in my last essay would mean that I would have to get a 67, which is almost a first, in one of my exams to still stand a chance at a 2:1. I think to expect to get a first in an exam is asking an awful lot but we shall see.

Your bed time is ridiculous and you need to change this if you are to be productive.

STOP thinking whether you can get 2:1, 2:2 or whatever and concentrate on the work and do the best you can. Worrying about the outcome is really not helping at this point!

So you have 3 essays still to do? If that is the case you are leaving it really late if you are also to do revision for the exams! When are these essays due in?

It is time to pull your finger out phil.

Tam_Lin

Best of luck, Phil; if you knuckle down and make sure you thoroughly revise and know your stuff, you can at least go in and say 'I did my best.' But you really need to take ownership of the fact that this is your degree and not anyone else's and decide what kind of outcome you want. You seem to have got reasonable results over the past 3 years from what you're saying (and they'd have told you if it really were a hopeless case before now), so time for the final push. Once it's over, you'll see it wasn't that bad.