Freestanding stove with rear flue

duggo1

We are thinking of getting a stovax view 5 or a pevex x40 cube or an esse 125se (as you can see we are still at the planning stage:rotfl:)

We would like to have it freestanding on a stove bench. We have no chimney so will have to install a twin walled flue. The problem is that mr duggo doesn't like the idea of the stove pipe above a freestanding fire. We thought rear flue would be an option, but were advised we can't have it straight for more than 6". We wondered if it was possible to angle a pipe out the rear flue, or is this a big no no?

Any advice on how to hide the flue pipe would be great (we want to avoid building a mock chimney if we can.)

Thanks for reading and any advice would be much appreciated.

greyteam1959

Have you had a look at the Stovax website they have lots of different design options.

muckybutt

A decent stove fitter should be able to install a small piece out of the back of the stove then a 45 deg bend through the wall to the outside where it then connects to the twinwall.

90 deg bends or horizontal flues are a big no no.

duggo1

I love the pics of the stovax view 5 on the stove bench actually, and possibly a better make than pevex who I can't find much on.

Sounds like it may be possible to try the rear flue idea. Will discuss it with our fitters when we get the survey done. Personally I couldn't see a problem with a visible flue pipe coming out the top, but mr d said he thought it looked ugly:eek:

duggo1

Although looking at the specs the rear flue is quite high up, so at a 45 degree angle may still be visible. Don't suppose any one has some pics of this kind of installation they would like to share?

suki1964

duggo1 wrote: »

I love the pics of the stovax view 5 on the stove bench actually, and possibly a better make than pevex who I can't find much on.

Sounds like it may be possible to try the rear flue idea. Will discuss it with our fitters when we get the survey done. Personally I couldn't see a problem with a visible flue pipe coming out the top, but mr d said he thought it looked ugly:eek:

It may not be pretty - but it brings a lot more heat into the room. I have the half meter of flue and then another half meter of twin walled chimney in my room and the heat in here is fantastic

ariba10

The more stovepipe you have in the room.

The more heat you will extract for a given amount of fuel.

wintergirl

suki1964 wrote: »

It may not be pretty - but it brings a lot more heat into the room. I have the half meter of flue and then another half meter of twin walled chimney in my room and the heat in here is fantastic

Agree totally with above. The external area of the twin walled flue will still get as hot as a radiator. If its outside, it will just heat the air in your garden! If its in the house, not only will it give extra heat to your lounge, it will heat the room above as well.
Here's a pic of our stove & twin walled flue :-

2012-10-28 19.06.33 by Lizzy407, on Flickr

If its inside the house, the flue will stay warmer, which means a better draw on start up, so easier to light up. You'll also likely get less chance of creasote build up, which is the major concern when burning only wood. - Just my opinion that an internal one is better. Obviously if hubby is dead set against it, then go with the extrnal flue. If you can get a good installer, they can talk you through the benefits of both. (Only problem we found was that each Hetas installer we contacted had different views on what was best / how it should be done, and we ended up more confused than when we started!!)
Best of luck with yours though - can't beat a good fire in the evenings as the cold of winter starts to bite!

suki1964

wintergirl wrote: »

Agree totally with above. The external area of the twin walled flue will still get as hot as a radiator. If its outside, it will just heat the air in your garden! If its in the house, not only will it give extra heat to your lounge, it will heat the room above as well.
Here's a pic of our stove & twin walled flue :-

2012-10-28 19.06.33 by Lizzy407, on Flickr

If its inside the house, the flue will stay warmer, which means a better draw on start up, so easier to light up. You'll also likely get less chance of creasote build up, which is the major concern when burning only wood. - Just my opinion that an internal one is better. Obviously if hubby is dead set against it, then go with the extrnal flue. If you can get a good installer, they can talk you through the benefits of both. (Only problem we found was that each Hetas installer we contacted had different views on what was best / how it should be done, and we ended up more confused than when we started!!)
Best of luck with yours though - can't beat a good fire in the evenings as the cold of winter starts to bite!

Now I love how you have really made yours a feature. No way are flues ugly when you accept them as part and parcel of a great heating system. I just wish my ceiling wasnt sloped cos Id love a straight line like yours

duggo1

Winter girl tat fire looks lovely and I love the feature colour. Good points about the heat inside the house, but can I ask where your pipe leaves the building. Is it between the ground and first floor, or does it go straight up and through the roof?

wintergirl

duggo1 wrote: »

Good points about the heat inside the house, but can I ask where your pipe leaves the building. Is it between the ground and first floor, or does it go straight up and through the roof?

We have a completely straight flue, which runs from our lounge ceiling into the corner of our daughters room, into the loft and then through the roof. To comply with building regs, the bedroom section is boxed in, but has a couple of adjustable vents top and bottom, which can be opened up when we use the fire, so some heat gets into the bedroom as well. It only takes up about a 14inch square section of the bedroom.
Had to think long and hard about the cost involved, as like you, we had no chimney, which certainly adds to the cost of the install. Wouldn't be without it now though! :T