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Ukpc parking charge

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  • prosnap
    prosnap Posts: 399 Forumite
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    edited 21 November 2012 at 5:01PM
    2011


    1.8m private parking invoices issued
    845 small claims issued
    49 cases came before a judge
    24 cases won by parking companies
    25 won by defendants
    36,000-1 chance of going to court
    72,000-1 chance of losing in court


    Private parking companies exist to fleece the motorist.

    Their whole business model is based upon speculative invoicing. If a company gives out 100 tickets, a certain percentage of people will unfortunately fall for it there and then.

    The remainder (like you) are sent 'threatograms' from the parking company and powerless debt collection companies. It's a lucrative business and if 60% of people pay up, a healthy profit is there to be had.

    Contacting them is generally a waste of time, their appeals process is worthless as it is not run by an impartial third party but rather by themselves so it's obviously within their interest to reject it.

    Over 99.9% of the time they will not take you to court, because the more times they take people to court, and lose,the more chance that other members of the public get to hear that the invoices can be ignored. This would then lead to parking companies having no income because there would be no more gullible people left!

    Taking people to court actually hurts their business ... Which is why they hardly ever try it.




    The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary
    Tickets: 19 [cancelled: 18, paid: 0, pending: 1]
    PPC Appeals: 8 [accepted: 2, rejected: 5, pending: 1]
    POPLA: 4 [accepted: 4, rejected: 0, pending: 0]
  • To all... I know this has been repeated many times here, but continue to ignore. The tickets are unenforceable. Private companies can no more charge you than I can for knocking on my door. Blue badges are not enforceable as they are council issued documents and only useable in council designated Bays...just avoid out of courtesy. Only the landowner can seek losses, not the ppc.

    Incidentally, I don't believe that a landowner eg. a supermarket who owns the car park area etc. can claim that a car parked is trespassing. since the implied sole use and purpose of the car park is for shop parking, the invitation to occupy the land is implied if you are shopping in the store. At most they could claim losses, of the car park is free, loss is zero.

    Saying that, my first comment still stands. Ignore everything, trust nothing. Do not panic. Ppc companies are speculative scammers...just because they try to package it as legitimate, it is no more so than the emails you receive from Nigeria asking for your bank account details...do not negotiate, there is no legal requirement to divulge who the driver was, despite what the ppc letters and staff tell you. Keep all letters and compare against the sticky thread here to match them up!!

    I would be interested to know the circumstances of the 24 cases won by the companies. I would hazard a guess that these were one offs with very specific circumstances...
  • Sirdan
    Sirdan Posts: 1,323 Forumite
    Incidentally, I don't believe that a landowner eg. a supermarket who owns the car park area etc. can claim that a car parked is trespassing. since the implied sole use and purpose of the car park is for shop parking, the invitation to occupy the land is implied if you are shopping in the store.

    Well yes but there again maybe no .

    Discussed this before.

    It's a stretch but a landowner who has signage in the car park stating maximum Stay 2 hours could possibly argue that their invitation to occupy the land only extends for those two hours and if you remain after that you are in fact tresspassing.


    They would then be entitled to any damages/losses incurred ..or if that were to be £0.00 the nnominal damages which would most likely be £1 ..hardly worth a court case now is it ?:rotfl:
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