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Britain is now the most powerful nation on earth

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  • Kennyboy66 wrote: »
    Until the Olympics London was a joke of a city for sport.

    Ok for football, rugby and cricket (at Lords) but laughable for almost anything else.

    I'm not sure that's quite fair- the city has several of the UK's best racecourses within easy train distance, including the iconic Derby and Royal Ascot meeting. And there's Wimbledon and the Boat Race. And although Crystal Palace is desperately in need of an upgrade, there is world class athletics there every year- I saw Usain Bolt, Asafa Powell and loads of future Olympic medallists for under £20 a couple of years back. Sheffield is arguably the UK's best all round sports venue city though.

    Capital cities are rarely fully representative of their countries, and it does seem usual for out-of-towners to sneer at those who live there (most French will cheerfully mock Parisians).

    We are actually ridiculously spoilt in London; all the top museums and galleries are FREE (unheard of in pretty much every other major capital), and the city is one of the greenest in terms of square metres of public park. I moan about the transport on occasion of course, but compared to where I grew up (1 bus per hour, long journey to dull provincial town) it's wondrous. Only a handful of cities have a properly iconic skyline and so many unique features (red buses, black cabs, the Underground signage), plus universally recognised brands like Sherlock Holmes, Dickens etc.

    "I wouldn't like to live in London- I went to Oxford St and it was really busy! Then we went to a restaurant and club near Leicester Square and it was expensive and full of tourists!" I file peasant-bleats like this in the same category as the Australians who wander round town in November in shorts and flip-flops moaning that it's cold in England.
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  • kbrumann
    kbrumann Posts: 112 Forumite
    ...keep on dreaming. If there is one thing this country has suffered from the most over the past 60 year it is overestimating its own importance.
  • Mids_Costcutter
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    Zekko wrote: »
    Well, Greater London is the most populous city in Europe!

    Isn't it Moscow with a greater metropolitan area population of 15m vs 12.5m for London?
  • Sapphire
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    For myself, I would find it difficult to live permanently outside London. I make use of the museums (especially the British Museum, which is unrivalled in my opinion) and other cultural institutions, the libraries, the shopping and the studying opportunities in central London.

    There are certainly parts of London that I find deeply unpleasant, but not where I live, and not west or central London on the whole (though I don't like Oxford Street). I don't know east London at all, and really don't like places like Islington in north London, though parts of north-west London are attractive and interesting.

    The British countryside is absolutely beautiful, and I stay in it quite a lot (Herefordshire). However, I would find it awfully quiet and lonely, and probably quite boring, to live there on a permanent basis. In London there is always something to do, whereas that is certainly not the case outside the city. I suppose it depends on your lifestyle choices, and on how interested you are in things outside your immediate family...
  • Don't all large metropolises have some crowded, unpleasant, and even squalid and no-go suburbs, especially inner suburbs ?
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  • Zekko wrote: »
    Well, Greater London is the most populous city in Europe!

    What's the population of London?

    In fact, London is apparently the 18th most populas country in the world according to this link

    1. Tokyo, Japan - 32,450,000
    2. Se!ul, South Korea - 20,550,000
    3. Mexico City, Mexico - 20,450,000
    4. New York City, USA - 19,750,000
    5. Mumbai, India - 19,200,000
    6. Jakarta, Indonesia - 18,900,000
    7. S!o Paulo, Brazil - 18,850,000
    8. Delhi, India - 18,680,000
    9. Õsaka/Kobe, Japan - 17,350,000
    10. Shanghai, China - 16,650,000
    11. Manila, Philippines - 16,300,000
    12. Los Angeles, USA - 15,250,000
    13. Calcutta, India - 15,100,000
    14. Moscow, Russian Fed. - 15,000,000
    15. Cairo, Egypt - 14,450,000
    16. Lagos, Nigeria - 13,488,000
    17. Buenos Aires, Argentina - 13,170,000
    18. London, United Kingdom - 12,875,000
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Sapphire
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    Don't all large metropolises have some crowded, unpleasant, and even squalid and no-go suburbs, especially inner suburbs ?

    Dunno about the suburbs (mine, Richmond/north Kingston area, are lovely), but I find parts of inner London really grotty and overcrowded. I don't really know any other London suburbs.

    Oh, and travelling around London in the rush hour, particularly on the Tube, is deeply unpleasant and to be avoided at all costs as far as I'm concerned. There seems to be no air conditioning, which makes the conditions in summer unbearably tiring.

    If you travel on trains, you are inevitably bound to find yourself near some moron jabbering about their boring personal life history on their mobile phone throughout your journey. The other day a woman was even offering (very loudly) to give her bank details to someone over the phone. Even the usually reserved, 'gritting-their-teeth' passengers were looking at each other aghast...
  • Sapphire wrote: »

    The British countryside is absolutely beautiful, and I stay in it quite a lot (Herefordshire). However, I would find it awfully quiet and lonely, and probably quite boring, to live there on a permanent basis. In London there is always something to do, whereas that is certainly not the case outside the city. I suppose it depends on your lifestyle choices, and on how interested you are in things outside your immediate family...

    On thing about living in a quiter spot is that people have more time for each other. People are more inclined to pass the day and help each other.

    More often that not you get a much better canvas out in the country than you ever will in a gallery.

    There is plenty to do when you are part of a community, wherever that may be, as a visitor that isn't always apparent.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • On thing about living in a quiter spot is that people have more time for each other. People are more inclined to pass the day and help each other.

    More often that not you get a much better canvas out in the country than you ever will in a gallery.

    There is plenty to do when you are part of a community, wherever that may be, as a visitor that isn't always apparent.

    Perfick.

    ....
  • Sapphire
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    On thing about living in a quiter spot is that people have more time for each other. People are more inclined to pass the day and help each other.

    More often that not you get a much better canvas out in the country than you ever will in a gallery.

    There is plenty to do when you are part of a community, wherever that may be, as a visitor that isn't always apparent.

    I certainly agree about all that, but from what I have seen of the activities among friends in Herefordshire, their activities would not interest me very much on a permanent basis.

    I guess if you have been brought up in a rural area, it is far easier to live in one than if you have lived for most of your life in London.
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