Parking solutions24

Soccermad

Hi new to this can anyone advise me my wife had parking ticket today for parking on double yellow lines in the hospital grounds free car park where the firm want £60 or £30 if paid in 7 days do I pay?

Coupon-mad

Soccermad wrote: »

Hi new to this can anyone advise me my wife had parking ticket today for parking on double yellow lines in the hospital grounds free car park where the firm want £60 or £30 if paid in 7 days do I pay?

NOPE!!! Which company though and was it in England/Wales, or Scotland?

For a quiet life, for many newbies, the registered keeper can just ignore the 'ticket' and ignore the other letters that will arrive. The letters are easy to ignore and laugh at, when they arrive at the address of someone who knows it's all hogwash and not a real parking ticket at all.

The whole scam of fake PCNs relies firstly on people's ignorance of the fact that a random private company can't fine anyone, and secondly on their natural fear of parking tickets and the escalating costs/bailiff scenario. So PPCs copy the look of a real parking ticket and - hey presto! - the cash rolls in from victims who know no better.

There is no fine, no CCJ, no bailiff, no debt, no effect on credit rating, no Court, no repercussions at all from a pathetic, unenforceable fake PCN (= invoice) issued by a random third party.

Tick off the threatening letters here.

Watchdog clip with expert Solicitor's opinion here.

Barrister's opinion - read the answer at the bottom, it's very clear! - here.

So I recommend from now on that you just play snap with the threatograms from debt collectors - choose to ignore and laugh at the scammer and their attempt to extort money. It's like deleting obvious phishing emails from your 'Bank'; it's a very similar con based on impersonation of authority.

DID I SAY DO NOT PAY?!!!!!!!!!!

Soccermad

The area in question is south wales

Coupon-mad

The registered keeper doesn't 'have to' do anything at all. These fake PCNs are as unenforceable as they ever were - it's just that these scam firms are now able to aim their threatogams at the registered keeper if they are not informed who the driver was.

Big deal...the keeper can still make paper aeroplanes out of them as we always did, just as shown by Tim Cary, the expert Solicitor in this Watchdog clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA


A SUMMARY:

As far as private parking ticket scams are concerned, for a vehicle where you or family are the registered keeper*:

Any fake PCN issued for an incident up until 30th Sept 2012 = IGNORE IT.

Any fake PCN issued for an incident from 1st October 2012 onwards:

- if you were parked in Scotland or NI = IGNORE IT.

- if your 'ticket' is from a firm who are NOT members of the BPA AOS, or are one of five AOS members currently banned from getting data = IGNORE IT.

- if your 'ticket' is from a non-banned by the DVLA!! AOS member in England/Wales, there are 2 choices:

a) IGNORE IT, as ever, playing snap with the threatograms that match our sticky thread 'PPC letter chains' (near the top of this parking forum),

or

b) Appeal it with help from here in how to word it, and insist on a referral to the POPLA appeals service if it's not cancelled. Costs the PPC £32 plus, costs you nothing, it's not binding on you but it is binding on the PPC. If you do not win your appeal then revert to ignore mode.

This option is for those who want to fight back, cost the PPC money and test the POPLA system whilst also getting their PPC's tactics scrutinised; start by reading threads about POPLA. Recent posters have had great success where their case is clearly a very unfair ticket (such as disabled overstay or slight overlap of a white line, etc.) by using email and wording it not as an appeal but a complaint, and copying in the retailer/landowner to that complaint.

Finally, if anyone gets any fake PCN anywhere in the UK in a retail, cinema, fast food or Supermarket car park then even if you choose to ignore the scammers then COMPLAIN IN WRITING to the CEO of the company on site if you were a customer. Do not appeal to them, complain about this protection racket against their paying ex-customers.

HTH





* it is different for hire/lease/company cars as you could find the fake PCN paid for you! Here is a thread about what to do (whether AOS scheme member or not, you need to appeal to hook the PPC in your direction).

littleoldman

All these replies are to ignore but this is my query.
I got a ticket on weds 14th Nov. It was worded correctly and it was for parking in a disabled bay without a disabled permit at retail park in Huddersfield This was quite true but, I was taking my partner to Comet to buy a new fridge. Niether of us is disabled so we have no blue badge. But, my partner who is 74 has just had a knee replacement and cannot walk very far. I parked in a disabled bay next to the door. came out half hour later and wallop !!!
There were four bays but none in use. There wasn`t a notice on the wall to indicate permit holders only, just they normal wheelchair logo on the tarmac.
I checked th others signs scattered around the carpark and to my surprise found two very basic spelling mistakes. And they are on every sign and all placed seven foot high on light poles. The first mistake said permits must be DISPLYED and VISABLE etc.
Of course they should have said DISPLAYED and VISIBLE. Should I appeal to Excel Parking or ignore them ? At our age we can do without this sort of aggravation and the worry it gives us.

taffy056

littleoldman wrote: »

All these replies are to ignore but this is my query.
I got a ticket on weds 14th Nov. It was worded correctly and it was for parking in a disabled bay without a disabled permit at retail park in Huddersfield This was quite true but, I was taking my partner to Comet to buy a new fridge. Niether of us is disabled so we have no blue badge. But, my partner who is 74 has just had a knee replacement and cannot walk very far. I parked in a disabled bay next to the door. came out half hour later and wallop !!!
There were four bays but none in use. There wasn`t a notice on the wall to indicate permit holders only, just they normal wheelchair logo on the tarmac.
I checked th others signs scattered around the carpark and to my surprise found two very basic spelling mistakes. And they are on every sign and all placed seven foot high on light poles. The first mistake said permits must be DISPLYED and VISABLE etc.
Of course they should have said DISPLAYED and VISIBLE. Should I appeal to Excel Parking or ignore them ? At our age we can do without this sort of aggravation and the worry it gives us.

Just for your information, the blue badge scheme does not apply on private land but the equalities act does , if this is a private parking fake ticket just ignore, if its council come back for further advice.

grant_uk

littleoldman wrote: »

All these replies are to ignore but this is my query.
I got a ticket on weds 14th Nov. It was worded correctly and it was for parking in a disabled bay without a disabled permit at retail park in Huddersfield This was quite true but, I was taking my partner to Comet to buy a new fridge. Niether of us is disabled so we have no blue badge. But, my partner who is 74 has just had a knee replacement and cannot walk very far. I parked in a disabled bay next to the door. came out half hour later and wallop !!!
There were four bays but none in use. There wasn`t a notice on the wall to indicate permit holders only, just they normal wheelchair logo on the tarmac.
I checked th others signs scattered around the carpark and to my surprise found two very basic spelling mistakes. And they are on every sign and all placed seven foot high on light poles. The first mistake said permits must be DISPLYED and VISABLE etc.
Of course they should have said DISPLAYED and VISIBLE. Should I appeal to Excel Parking or ignore them ? At our age we can do without this sort of aggravation and the worry it gives us.

Yep - as Taffy says, if it's a genuine council ticket then post back to discuss it further. It should have the name of the council on it and be called a Penalty Charge Notice.

If it's only got Excel on it and it's called a Parking Charge Notice, then it's not worth the paper it's printed on, despite any checkered patterns printed around the edge of it. That being the case, don't waste your time trying to appeal because they'll reject it without even bothering to read your explanation. They'll also assume that they've hooked you in with their official looking spiel and continue with their increasingly threatening sounding letters, hoping you'll buckle and pay up.

Ignore those letters and they will eventually stop.

Please post back if you're still concerned, but you've done the right thing coming here. The information is second to none and should hopefully give you the confidence to stand up to these bullies and their unenforceable speculative invoices.

HO87

+1 to the above.

If by some chance the ticket is headed Excess Charge and was issued by the council then that is definitely not one to ignore. These are becoming increasingly rare but are still in use in some parts of the country.

peter_the_piper

Parking solutions 24 are on the BPA AOS but not sure if they are completely as no box has been ticked, there's a fair chance they can't get a dvla details or are in the popla scheme.

littleoldman

Hi every one, littleoldman here,
thank you all for the advice with my query. I don`t feel that I`ve wronged anyone using the disabled bay, I was just trying to make life a little easier for my partner. I suppose what is lacking in todays world is a little common sense and give and take.
If Ecxel Parking Services Limited cannot be bothered to ensure the signage has no printing errors then thay aren`t very professional about their business. I think I`ve read somewhere on the forum that the DVLA no longer supply them with driver details. A good thing too.
If I get any letters from Excel I`ll let you all know the outcome.
Thank you all again.

taffy056

Yes if you get letters from Excel please please come back, it would they got your RK details illegally.