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Is it legal to redirect banned IPs to gay websites?

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  • Sparhawke
    Sparhawke Posts: 1,420 Forumite
    edited 13 November 2012 at 2:00PM
    My issue with this is that as two supposedly grown up adults you are playing dangerous games with the publics hardware/security, now, there may be nothing in law written specifically to jail people like you YET but in time there will be.

    Redirecting anyone to a site that they are not expecting is wrong, if someone goes on a site such as yours and is redirected to a dodgy site that then proceeds to add keyloggers and such then it is YOUR fault and you who will be liable.

    If a child happens to stumble across your site and is thrown into !!!!!! hell then it is YOUR fault and you are liable.

    Forget all these legal definitions, you are in effect peddling !!!!!! and if that happens to be someone under 18 then you are at fault. Regardless of printed or digital form.

    The internet is about links that is true and you can at least choose to follow them, if innocents are trapped by you simply for going on your site then that is illegal.

    http://www.techopedia.com/definition/15476/pagejacking

    If you site is one with a .com or .net then you fall under federal jurisdiction and they can simply take away your right to have one in the future. In case anyone bothers to ask, Verisign oversees these extensions and they fall under US law and though you cannot by tried by those here in the UK they can confiscate domains and sites. AND THEY WILL.

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/

    If I ever come across one of these pagejacking sites that mousetrap me then believe me I will not hesitate to report it, and the difference with me is I know the exact people to ask legal advice from in any such situation.

    For the opening poster, stop playing games and just close down the site, it is not fair for you to be playing Russian Roulette with customers security.

    (And quite frankly I am absolutely amazed that some people here condone this kind of behaviour, and applaud it.)
    "Don't blink. Blink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't blink. Good Luck" - The Doctor.
  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 33,106 Forumite
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    Redirect them to a gay site. a big LOL.

    As long as they don't instantly see graphic naughty pictures then i doubt they have any form of complaint.

    Its not your site they must have malware right :)

    Sparhawke. Its not affecting other people though. Just his mate/employee.

    What would you do if someone was stealing your website data?
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • StuC75
    StuC75 Posts: 2,065 Forumite
    Sparhawke wrote: »
    My issue with this is that as two supposedly grown up adults you are playing dangerous games with the publics hardware/security, now, there may be nothing in law written specifically to jail people like you YET but in time there will be.

    Redirecting anyone to a site that they are not expecting is wrong, if someone goes on a site such as yours and is redirected to a dodgy site that then proceeds to add keyloggers and such then it is YOUR fault and you who will be liable.

    If a child happens to stumble across your site and is thrown into !!!!!! hell then it is YOUR fault and you are liable.

    The OP made it clear that is only redirecting the former business partners ip address to the site; and not the rest of the internet!! So only a risk for a child is if it was the former business partners machine that was used... which they are already aware of..
  • Sparhawke
    Sparhawke Posts: 1,420 Forumite
    edited 13 November 2012 at 5:37PM
    *bangs his head against a brick wall*

    He is redirecting a website that he has stated "IS NOT HIS" to a gay !!!!!! site, haven't you heard of the cracker group Anonymous lately in the news?

    (cracker is quite different from hacker, the former use their skills for personal gain while the latter use their for exploration and discovery; tending towards informing of security issues and holes)

    ---

    @Forgotmyname

    The correct way to go throug it is contact a solicitor and get them to send a cease and desist, or file a DCMA with their hosting company and go to Big G (possibly) and report them who will/may de-index the offending pages and possibly even blacklist them.

    Last year a massive purge was made on scraped content, link farms and duplicate "crap" all over the internet...it was called the Panda update and this harms them far more when they see their site disappear from the big search providers.

    To start cracking websites and do illegal stuff yourself is stupid even if you did once own it. Go through the proper channels that exist thereby protecting yourself.

    All will happen in the future of this dubious debate is that it will escalate into who knows what, you need to stop it now. Even if that means being the bigger man.

    This is a site that I frequent often, just follow instructions for a DCMA :)

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/663617-somebody-copying-my-entire-website-exactly.html
    http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/stopping-internet-plagiarism/

    For anyone asking here or answering you have to remember that regardless of our professions outside of this forum we are deemed amateurs, we have no right to give medical/legal/financial help, all we can do is point you to the safest place to get information and try to keep you on the correct side of the law. If you then choose to stray it is your fault, but I assure you; you are treading a very dangerous path by escalating what is simply a minor tiff.
    "Don't blink. Blink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't blink. Good Luck" - The Doctor.
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    edited 13 November 2012 at 5:54PM
    Sparhawke wrote: »
    *bangs his head against a brick wall*

    He is redirecting a website that he has stated "IS NOT HIS" to a gay !!!!!! site

    I guess we must see different text in the OP and subsequent posts, because I categorically disagree with the above statement. What I see is that he is redirecting connections to HIS OWN website that come FROM his ex-business-partner's IP address to an alternative site, to prevent the ex-partner from copying his content and style.

    And there's NOTHING wrong with that and NOTHING to stop him doing that. It's the same process as if someone runs a forum and gets spammed a lot by a company, so the forum admin blocks (or redirects) request from the IP address(es) used by that company.

    But I'd agree that sending him to a gay !!!!!! site is not the best idea - that's why I suggested sending him back to his own website. ;)
  • Lum
    Lum Posts: 6,460 Forumite
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    Sparhawke wrote: »
    *bangs his head against a brick wall*

    He is redirecting a website that he has stated "IS NOT HIS" to a gay !!!!!! site, haven't you heard of the cracker group Anonymous lately in the news?

    Heard of them a long time ago.

    However this is not what he is doing. He has configured is own website such that if you view it from his former business partner's workplace. It sends an instruction to the browser to go to gay.com or wherever instead.

    If you view it from any other location, the normal website is displayed.

    He is not breaking into his rival's website and changing it, he is just messing about with his own site.


    I think people here are amused because anyone who has run a half decent website will have had their content stolen at some point, or worse will have had someone create a separate site that references images stored on your own site, so it costs you money in the form of bandwidth bills to help someone else have a website.

    It used to be pretty commonplace in the latter case for those images to be replaced with goatse or some other shock site.

    The only time you really see anything similar these days is those Photobucket "bandwidth exceeded" images on popular forum posts.
  • Ben84
    Ben84 Posts: 3,069 Forumite
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    Well, now the idea of redirecting is out of the bag, but you could still just send them to a really outdated version of your site and run the text through a translator program to let them worry about why it's all in Japanese and what's wrong with their computers...
  • neilwoods
    neilwoods Posts: 2,304 Forumite
    Wow just spent past 10 minutes reading all this and is quite funny and what the OP has done is pretty good.

    Where the OP says stock photo's, do these belong to the OP or someone like shutterstock, if the latter then inform them and they will take there own action against him.

    Have to agree with bod1467, what is sparhawke reading. OP clearly states it is his own site and is only re-directing a certain person to a totally different wite, so how is that in way called pagejacking.
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  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 8,441 Forumite
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    This is starting to sound a bit childish and pointless. If you don't want someone to visit your web site, then you should just be returning 503 Forbidden.

    But it's futile trying to stop someone copying your web site - they can just visit it from a different location, select View Source in their web browser and take a copy.

    If the images aren't yours anyway, and they are changing all the words, then the copyright claims are weaker anyway.

    Unless your ex-partner is stealing your business name, then it's not really your problem if his new business is dodgy. Just make sure yours is squeaky-clean.

    If he is stealing your name, is it really yours anyway, given the lack of any proper contract? just because you control the original web site, doesn't necessarily mean the business' name belongs to you.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
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