Benefit of 100% attendance at work?

ILW

antonic wrote: »

And your (unwilling) contribution is most appreciated - thanks ! (and you forget that as a taxpayer I contribute as well !!)

But you only contribute to SSP for me. How can that be fair?

antonic

I agree that it is unfair, but life isnt fair.

The only way to change it but would be to try and get the system changed but good luck trying to get your MP interested.

ILW wrote: »

But you only contribute to SSP for me. How can that be fair?

ILW

antonic wrote: »

I agree that it is unfair, but life isnt fair.

The only way to change it but would be to try and get the system changed but good luck trying to get your MP interested.

Probably depends on whether the Tories get in.

marcada

I have a better suggestion to help you get over your resentment. Grow up.

If you have never, in your entire working life, been sick enough to need to take time off sick, then how very fortunate you are. And if you remain so fit and healthy for the entire of the rest of your working life, then even more fortunate. Not everyone is quite so fortunate in life as you, and if their GP / consultant or whatever thinks they are not fit for work, then who are you to decide otherwise? I do hope that if you ever do get too sick to work, that it is with something extremely serious and very obvious, because it would be just awful if YOUR colleagues went whinging to everyone they know, and on line, and to management, complaining that you aren't really sick and you are just swinging the lead. So do be sure that your illness is obvious or that's just what your colleagues might do.[/QUOTE]

I just puked on your suggestion. That was disgusting. I think I'm getting sick. Taking my first sick leave tomorrow. Ha ha ha

StephenM_2

I've no problem with NHS staff or anyone else in the public sector getting decent sick pay as long as there are robust procedures to weed out cheats. I myself work in the private sector but am entitled to up to 45 weeks on full pay when sick. I've never taken a false "sickie". The last time I was off sick was when I got genuine flu at the height of the 2009 swine flu epidemic. There's no way I could have worked then, and staying at home meant I avoided spreading it to colleagues, which would have cost the company more than it cost them to pay my salary.

iwb100

Lot of nonsense in this thread. The NHS monitor sickness absence using the Bradford model.

Which means that anyone who has been off sick for 4 or more separate incidences within a year, or is suspected of "faking it" (for example if someone suspiciously had three Fridays off every year to fly under the 4 incidences radar) has to go for an appointment with occupational health to be assessed. If they are assessed and the outcome is that they have no genuine reason to be sick so frequently they will be under special monitoring measures and their next sickness period could bring about disciplinary procedures.

It is right for this to happen. On the other hand, incentivising sick people coming into work is madness.

The holier than thou private sector are just as bad in some cases for failing to enforce sickness policies and then on the other side have some terrible terrible sickness absence policies that discriminate against people who may have the audacity to be sick once in a while.

The private sector mob are being galvanised by a divisive government trying to make out that the public sector are the bad guys. Lets be clear, very very few staff in the NHS get a bonus. None get christmas parties paid for, or expensive trips paid for or food and drink paid for. Plenty in the private sector get that. I know people who have their breakfast provided every day for free. Say thats £10 a week thats nearly £500 a year benefit they are getting.

Lets keep things balanced.

red_eye

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

100% record is of no benefit if the ones who take the sick days are also getting full pay while you are doing all the work.

Having said that if they want to get rid of people that could use sickness against them but can't believe no one records it - so saying that you all must get paid in full regardless of being there or not. Easy life eh in the NHS - no wonder the NHS as no ££££

not really if you work weekends and unsociable you get a higher rate of pay, if your sick for them shifts you only get paid basic

dori2o

Personally, if you are coughing and splutterring, sneezing, etc etc all over the place, I'd rather not be anywhere near you.

By going into work ill, all you are doing is passing the illness onto other people.

100% attendance record or not, if you are ill you should not be in work. This isn't just for your own benefit, but for the benefit of those who work with/around you.

ohreally

red_eye wrote: »

not really if you work weekends and unsociable you get a higher rate of pay, if your sick for them shifts you only get paid basic

From 14.4 of the terms and conditions handbook

Sick pay is calculated on the basis of what the individual would have received had he/she been at work

dizzyrascal

I would also say that NHS staff as well as LA and other public sector staff usually have to pay to park at work. It's £3.20 a day where I work, similar for the large hospital next door to my office.
I also do not get a health package with work. Bupa (or similar schemes) are never likely to be offered as part of my working conditions.
It's swings and roundabouts really