car parking partnership

JAMason

Bessy_the_Dog wrote: »

You could always try the "return to sender" option with a note like "not resident at this address"

Iv read to not bother with this as they have DVLA access so know where my car is registered to. Even if i change my cars registered address, they will just re check it and send the letters onto me that way. Nice idea though if it was that simple.

Sirdan

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If it is all lies and a bluff, why do they do it?

To make money of course ! Sadly a lot of people fall for this simply because like you they can not believe that thses shysters are allowed to get away with their scam

Why are the office of fair trading allowing this to happen?

That's a very good question..ask them but don't expect a positive response.

What authority have they ACTUALLY got?

The same as you or I, anyone can invoice anyone for anything and if they like they can file a small claim at County Court ..winning that claim of course is an entirely different matter.

Please give me your name and address so I can send you my invoice for £50 for viewing this post as per the Terms and Conditions clearly shown. Cheques payable to PPCBS.

You gonna worry about that or pay it ?..no I thought not ..!!

LittleMax

JAMason wrote: »

I had no option but to leave a wheel over the line to actually get in and out of my car, I was parked with a wall one side and on the other a smart car in the bay next to me.

Not linked to the main query ... however you did have an option not to leave a wheel over the line.

I park on that car park regularly and admit that the bays are incredibly tight. However, a TT can be fitted in the bay and had you parked your car the other way round with the passenger side against the wall, you would not have had to take the adjacent bay out of use. The lack of car parking spaces at the Uni is a big problem; so the effect of your action was not simply £3 lost revenue but you caused inconvenience to other car users at the Uni that day. If everyone took the view that the bays were too small and they needed to park over the line that would take 50% of bays out of action. Even if everyone paid double so no lost revenue, the issue would be the loss of spaces.

You were inconsiderate, and had I been driving round looking for a space that day I would have been :mad:

JAMason

LittleMax wrote: »

Not linked to the main query ... however you did have an option not to leave a wheel over the line.

I park on that car park regularly and admit that the bays are incredibly tight. However, a TT can be fitted in the bay and had you parked your car the other way round with the passenger side against the wall, you would not have had to take the adjacent bay out of use. The lack of car parking spaces at the Uni is a big problem; so the effect of your action was not simply £3 lost revenue but you caused inconvenience to other car users at the Uni that day. If everyone took the view that the bays were too small and they needed to park over the line that would take 50% of bays out of action. Even if everyone paid double so no lost revenue, the issue would be the loss of spaces.

You were inconsiderate, and had I been driving round looking for a space that day I would have been :mad:

Thanks for your reply, but as previously stated, there was in fact a car parked next to me when i parked, all be it a smart car. My argument stands that a car COULD park next to me, but a rather small car! And today, i have parked in a bay, both my front wheels are inside the lines, my rears are touching the lines. As iv said, the TT is a rather fat car. I get what you are saying though and i do apologies, i know how hard parking is.

verityboo

JAMason wrote: »

Thanks for your reply, but as previously stated, there was in fact a car parked next to me when i parked, all be it a smart car. My argument stands that a car COULD park next to me, but a rather small car! And today, i have parked in a bay, both my front wheels are inside the lines, my rears are touching the lines. As iv said, the TT is a rather fat car. I get what you are saying though and i do apologies, i know how hard parking is.

The current Audi TT is 6cm narrower than a Ford Focus so I hope you never have to park even an average car! As others have said, the OP is a bit of a selfish kn0b parking like that but its safe to ignore any payment demands

JAMason

verityboo wrote: »

The current Audi TT is 6cm narrower than a Ford Focus so I hope you never have to park even an average car! As others have said, the OP is a bit of a selfish kn0b parking like that but its safe to ignore any payment demands

Im not here to have people call me a Knob, insult me or trying to paint me as an inconsiderate person. I came for advice on the ticket I got. If you actually take the time to read my post you will see Im not saying its an unfair ticket, i was in an unfortunate situation where leaving one wheel on and the rear wheel slightly over the line resulted in the blocking of one of the other very small and narrow spaces. It wasn't like i parked in the middle of the two!

tospig

JAMason wrote: »

If it is all lies and a bluff, why do they do it? Why are the office of fair trading allowing this to happen? and why do they feel like they can threaten people? What authority have they ACTUALLY got?

Every single person who finds out how the scam works asks this question.

If it helps put your mind at rest I've received and ignored 7 tickets, all from between june and july this year, and i believe 6 of them have completed their cycle of letters, so you can expext to receive them for the next 4-6 months.

Finally, and without trying to be insulting, no one on here would ever advocate parking over two bays, and I would suspect no one on here would accept your argument of allowing enough space for a small car.

HTH

realaledrinker

You can see the sequence of CPP's threatograms here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2329119

I am on the penultimate one and just smile, tick off & file them as they comein.

Rest easy.

RENEGADE_2

Hello JAMason. I'd like to explain the circumstance to you afresh so as to bury your fears.

Regardless of whether you are the registered keeper and regardless of whether you double-parked, you have been issued with a fake invoice. In other words, the demand is unlawful, and therefore unenforceable. The legislation that governs private land is Contract and Property Law. Here a landowner may push only for losses resulting from your action. In your case, you prevented another vehicle from parking so a fair settlement would be the cost of the cheapest ticket from the machine. I mean, the parking officer will have only had to spot the car parked as it was to issue his document and as such, there is no record of how long you were parked like that and how long you stopped a vehicle parking there. Be that as it may, even here the university would have to go to court and prove that car park was otherwise full. If there were one single space free, or if they cannot prove it was full, you won't even owe this tiny figure.

To pursue one single penny more than losses amounts to a de facto penalty, and legally citizens may not penalise one another. Your antagonists may attempt to circumvent this by avoiding the word "penalty" and claiming that as motorist, you agreed to the terms of the signage when you parked, but that does not stand up in court. It would still be seen by a competent judge as a penalty, in addition to the fact that predrafted conditions have no validity: so as to form a contract, it requires that all parties involved have negotiated in the agreement.

I wouldn't bother writing to them: let them get your details. Keep them waiting. If they mention Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 then you can write to deny the charge, expect rejection from them, then you can complain to POPLA, that will cost the company £32, then you are free to ignore everything from everyone, no matter whether POPLA also reject you. Their decision is binding for the parking company, not for you.