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  • Alchemilla
    Alchemilla Posts: 6,252 Forumite
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    Calfuray wrote: »
    Totally lost now :o
    Give it up to God, Cal.

    Thats what Shes for. X
  • Calfuray
    Calfuray Posts: 1,003 Forumite
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    gallygirl wrote: »
    Follow the money I mean follow your heart - which job do you want?

    Bearing in mind your worst case scenario mentality, how will you feel if you stick to Company A and it goes bust/sells your soul to the devil/gets landed on by alien spaceship/you get eaten by a zombie werebat as you get in the car in their car park one night etc?

    Hope that helps :D.

    Oh GG. Not only do you make me laugh and laugh (and scare me a bit) but I think I get the point you're trying to make. Thank you :)
    You may naturally be risk averse but what you need to be is open to taking risk in a more controlled manner. Look at your preference and consider how you could manage the associated risks. I'd say both options have a probationary period the internship one is quite short. Why not stick the risks up here, we'll have a go with suggested mitigations and you can maybe make a more informed choice that takes account of your obvious capabilities.

    Controlled manner is a very, very good point. Thank you so much for the advice.
    It strikes me that Cal is perhaps wrongly categorising her risks as catastrophic risks (i.e. ones that cannot be recovered from). If you have had a chance at 2 jobs since graduating in such a short time frame there *will* be others.
    • Best scenario = sweet job with good pay that you really enjoy
    • Middle scenario = ok job that takes a bit longer to get into, a few nagging doubts
    • Worst scenario = no job

    Am I nearly there?

    Part of the concern will be due to the binary nature of them (i.e. get job x/do not get job x), hard to mitigate against yes/no options. Perhaps they need to be re-framed for positivity.

    We took part on a useful exercise on a Lean Six Sigma course at work recently 'The 5 Whys'. Basically you name something that doesn't work (or in this case, something you're worried about) and drill down asking yourself 'why' at each level. For example, you might start with 'I'm afraid to start with job y', ask yourself 'why?' and come up with 'because I'm afraid I might not get a permanent role' and so on. It's a powerful tool for root cause analysis/getting through the fog that besets our brains from time to time :)

    And once again, Ed is the fountain of knowledge. You're right, fundamentally my fear is that his trust is misguided and that I won't be as good as he thinks I will be, and that hence I won't get the job. I think my dissertation has really knocked my confidence as well. Then today I was helping someone with their work, and I was flying, solving problems left, right and centre, I haven't felt like that in a long time.

    So, I emailed to ask for the details of the pay so I know how much I can save etc for worst case. They replied same day, and it's really good.

    One of my friends made a really good point, how will you feel walking into safe job thinking 'what if...'

    So crux of the situation: I'm going to take it, thanks to all the lovely people in my life (you guys included). Now I just have to work out what to say to the first company!
  • edinburgher
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    Mumble mumble, personal circumstances, thanks very much, goodbye :o
  • Calfuray
    Calfuray Posts: 1,003 Forumite
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    Mumble mumble, personal circumstances, thanks very much, goodbye :o

    Really? I was going to go along lines of 'Had every intention of taking your job and did not apply for any other jobs, but have been headhunted and the new job is more conveniently located (etc) so unfortunately can no longer accept offer, thought I would give you as much notice as possible etc etc.'?

    I've never done this before! :o
  • gallygirl
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    Well done Cal, brave decision :j.

    Maybe you should also have a plan in case worse case scenario strikes job B. Ed suggests "I find garlicky brains on an umbrella helps against those" to cope with werebats - best come up with a plan for alien spaceship though. Always carry 6 weeks emergency supplies about yourself in case you have to hide in the stationery cupboard?
    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
    :) Mortgage Balance = £0 :)
    "Do what others won't early in life so you can do what others can't later in life"
  • edinburgher
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    Calfuray wrote: »
    Really? I was going to go along lines of 'Had every intention of taking your job and did not apply for any other jobs, but have been headhunted and the new job is more conveniently located (etc) so unfortunately can no longer accept offer, thought I would give you as much notice as possible etc etc.'?

    I've never done this before! :o

    Do whatever your conscience tells you Cal, was just joking about the fact that there will always be a little awkwardness in such circumstances. Still, they will understand if it's a competitive industry, doubt you're the first.
  • Alchemilla
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    The alien spaceship might be full of really cool aliens.
  • gallygirl
    gallygirl Posts: 17,240 Forumite
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    Alchemilla wrote: »
    The alien spaceship might be full of really cool aliens.
    Fine. You take the chance. I'll be in the stationery cupboard with the 10p dry noodles :).
    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
    :) Mortgage Balance = £0 :)
    "Do what others won't early in life so you can do what others can't later in life"
  • Calfuray
    Calfuray Posts: 1,003 Forumite
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    Hello strangers.

    How did 4 months just pass by?

    I'm a couple of weeks into internship, few weeks back from honeymoon, less than a week was graduation, dissertation and uni all done.... Time to join the real world I guess.

    Need to update various challenges and read some diaries. Good to be back :)

    Cal x
  • edinburgher
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    Welcome back Cal :)
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