white lines help please

bert_gert

I'll look again for it hope i find it again

bert_gert

http theihe.org/knowledge-network/uploads/Highway%20Risk%20and%20Liability%20Claims%20-%202nd%20Edition%20July%202009.pdf[/url]

not the one i had but page 32 section e gives an idea if anyone knows what else is covered by trap

missile

I have corrected your link > http://www.theihe.org/knowledge-network/uploads/Highway%20Risk%20and%20Liability%20Claims%20-%202nd%20Edition%20July%202009.pdf

bert_gert

wont let me send full links yet, add http: to the front

//theihe.org/knowledge-network/uploads/Highway%20Risk%20and%20Liability%20Claims%20-%202nd%20Edition%20July%202009.pdf

bert_gert

beat me to it cheers lol

NBLondon

How about telling us the name of the road and town so we can actually see what the junction looks like by Googling?

I think the original post means that the lines were repainted in a different position which the OP thinks is now dangerous. With the long breathless paragraph it sounds like the Give Way point is 3 feet into the main road - which seems unlikely. Or that there are parking bays very close to the junction - which sounds like bad design.

maninthestreet

bert_gert wrote: »

yep . gov but like a clown i didn't keep the pages stored, got there by searching moving a junction and sifting through the rubbish that came up

If you are using IE as your brower it will be in your History, accessed by Ctrl+Shift+H

Lum

Never thought I'd see this one used on MSE but...



Can you post a photo of the junction so we can see what the actual issue is.
A street view link showing the old layout would also be helpful.

Throbbe

You seem to be saying that the give way line has been moved forward by around 1-2 metres, and now ties into the centre of a marked parking bay. Is that right?

Something like (if this works):

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- Edge of parking Bay
! = = = = = = = = - Give way line
_______________________ - Kerbline


If so I assume the original arrangement was that the give way line tied into the kerb, and based on your reasoning directed traffic straight into the back of parked cars, rather than into the offside quarter! I don't see how it's less safe (but apologies if I've misenterpreted).

From the reference you gave (p32):

“Even in the case of occupiers of land, there is no duty to give warning of obvious dangers:
see the recent case of Tomlinson v Congleton Borough Council [2004] 1 AC 46. People must
accept responsibility for their own actions and take the necessary care to avoid injuring
themselves or others. And a highway authority is not of course the occupier of the highway

and does not owe the common duty of care.

That would seem to cover the lack of a duty to prevent people driving into parked cars.

Throbbe

bert_gert wrote: »

i'm limited to what i can post and PM with just joining if you could bear with me on this i could do with any sensible advice as the highways guys were no use whatsoever and couldn't admit the lines were painted wrongly despite one of them offering to pay the contractor to put them right.

Am I right in thinking that the Highways team have offered to return the markings to their original position? In which case that seems to solve your problem?

I probably can give some sensible advice, but at the moment I'm not clear what you are after.