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Escape to the Country
Man_Overboard_2
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I enjoyed my first experience of this TV programme yesterday, and was interested in the 4 'Lake District' properties which were considered.
No information was given about the heating systems of any of the properties, nor about the level of insulation which any of the properties enjoy.
The 'viewers' coo-ed enthusiastically about the ensuite bathrooms and the woodburning stoves (a couple of Morsos, a Jotul, and a Dovre), but there was no sign of a log supply, and the rooms were pristine clean.
At least one of the stoves was topped by a flue pipe with two 45 degree bends leading into an offset chimney flue (to me, it looked completely uncleanable without first moving the stove). The Dovre was shown with it's doors closed, despite the fact that Dovres are designed to be used as an open fire with the option to close the doors at any time.
None of the stoves would have heated any more than the area immediately in front of them, and, imho, they were less visually attractive than the open fires which they replaced.
I have read section J of the building regulations, and there is no way in which a chimney sweep or a stove installer would be able to make any sense of it. If you seriously think you can understand it, then go be a barrister, and earn even more than you are earning already.
No information was given about the heating systems of any of the properties, nor about the level of insulation which any of the properties enjoy.
The 'viewers' coo-ed enthusiastically about the ensuite bathrooms and the woodburning stoves (a couple of Morsos, a Jotul, and a Dovre), but there was no sign of a log supply, and the rooms were pristine clean.
At least one of the stoves was topped by a flue pipe with two 45 degree bends leading into an offset chimney flue (to me, it looked completely uncleanable without first moving the stove). The Dovre was shown with it's doors closed, despite the fact that Dovres are designed to be used as an open fire with the option to close the doors at any time.
None of the stoves would have heated any more than the area immediately in front of them, and, imho, they were less visually attractive than the open fires which they replaced.
I have read section J of the building regulations, and there is no way in which a chimney sweep or a stove installer would be able to make any sense of it. If you seriously think you can understand it, then go be a barrister, and earn even more than you are earning already.
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I've watched it before too ... I never realised I should have taken notes then written an essay
It's all just "entertainment fluff".... not to be taken seriously.
Happens all the time... people prancing about on the telly oohing and aahing - and rarely buying.0 -
Man_Overboard wrote: »
At least one of the stoves was topped by a flue pipe with two 45 degree bends leading into an offset chimney flue (to me, it looked completely uncleanable without first moving the stove).
My flue has to two 45 degree bends and i have no trouble sweeping
the flue.0 -
I use to watch it, it's one of my dreams to move to the country.
However I tired of hearing "the kitchen is a bit smaller than I hoped" when they are greeted with a kitchen bigger than my house.
Too many people just want to be on telly and nose around other peoples houses and then slag the house off, or location etc.Know the difference between what you WANT and what you NEED. :T0 -
The_ICT_Engineer wrote: »My flue has to two 45 degree bends and i have no trouble sweeping
the flue.
Sweeping the chimney yourself? That's cheating...0 -
If a job's worth doing. Do it yourself.Man_Overboard wrote: »Sweeping the chimney yourself? That's cheating...0 -
Generally no problem at all going through two 45s to sweep if you have the right gear. Not sure of the point you were trying to make by saying the rooms were pristine clean - having a stove doesn't mean you have to live in a tip and not do housework!
I know several installers and they don't seem to have much bother getting their heads round Part J - again I'm not really sure of the point you were trying to make.0 -
Well I've just had a scan through the programme you mentioned - and to be honest if you used to work as a chimney sweep and would have had any trouble with any of the stoves shown, then perhaps it was for the best that you sold the business. All very straightforward on the face of things.0
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Greenfires wrote: »Generally no problem at all going through two 45s to sweep if you have the right gear. Not sure of the point you were trying to make by saying the rooms were pristine clean - having a stove doesn't mean you have to live in a tip and not do housework!
I know several installers and they don't seem to have much bother getting their heads round Part J - again I'm not really sure of the point you were trying to make.
I think, in fairness, there is a widely propagated myth that stoves aren't dust producing and will fit seamlessly into the modern aseptic home .
It's a myth pumped out by cheap TV programmes, 'lifestyle' magazines and (surprise surprise!) stove manufacturers' glossy brochures.
Anyone who thinks a wood or solid fuel burning stove will be as clean and easy to use as a gas fire is in for a bit of shock.0 -
I understand not only part J but also part p and applied the 17th edition to rewiring my house. And not a bco in sight.
It's a simple case with coming p with a design (by usually copying best practice guidelines) then checking against the regs to see if you are breaking any.
Finally, testing is essential once e installation is complete to ensure system meets the design requirements.
I do work in aviation safety compliance though and have an engineering degree. I wouldn't spit on a barrister if they were on fire.0 -
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