TV Licence court summons

mickaveli2001

It only works if the candidates are electable in the first place, which they aren't. Who voted for David Cameron to lead the opposition? He wasn't even genuinely voted into power either.

A fair system would be counting number of votes (not seats) for a max number of parties (say 10) each having an equal amount of air time to state their intended policies, and not corporately influenced through who has the most funding from big businesses otherwise it becomes a corporate election and not a true democratic one with the party usually acting on the interests of corporations, banks etc. rather than people, as evident with the current situation

courtney22

Similar situation happened to my friend she had court date through, in the mean time paid £30 towards one,, went to court wasnteven heard by a judge a man from the TV license said that as she had gone to court and tried to make some form of payment it was a warning. Had contact details given on how to make more payments, she didn't receive any fine! So I'd say try to pay some before going to court, as it worked for her. Hope u get it sorted

mickaveli2001

The BBC are unlawful. Bill of Rights 1689. Section 2.12 specifically states “That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegal and void.”

The BBC threaten a fine amount of £1000 before you've even been to court via letter, and more importantly without even establishing whether or not a crime has been committed. I myself have got out of parking fines numerous times on that law alone. No authority under British law (other than the courts) have the right to issue any type of fine. Many people don't know about that and they sure as hell don't advertise it, yet a lot of private companies (BBC, Capita, NSL etc) are all private companies working for profit, getting away with it all because of fear tactics and deceiving the public. (IE: TV detection van myth, fine of £1000 etc.)

If you know the law, you can get out of parking tickets, you can stop paying your TV licence.

welshwizard1927

mickaveli2001 wrote: »

The BBC are unlawful. Bill of Rights 1689. Section 2.12 specifically states “That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegal and void.”

The BBC threaten a fine amount of £1000 before you've even been to court via letter, and more importantly without even establishing whether or not a crime has been committed. I myself have got out of parking fines numerous times on that law alone. No authority under British law (other than the courts) have the right to issue any type of fine. Many people don't know about that and they sure as hell don't advertise it, yet a lot of private companies (BBC, Capita, NSL etc) are all private companies working for profit, getting away with it all because of fear tactics and deceiving the public. (IE: TV detection van myth, fine of £1000 etc.)

If you know the law, you can get out of parking tickets, you can stop paying your TV licence.

Utter rubbish. Every offence in law has alongside it the maximum penalty prescribed by parliament. The TV licence letter is simply reiterating what is set down in statute. If we were to apply your absurd reasoning then every offence would be void as the maximum penalty is prescribed in statute.

Please don't tell me you're one of these people who walks into court and refuses to give your date of birth but rather identifies yourself through your family name and date on your birth certificate. Otherwise known as freemans. Utter garbage and your advice could put a lot of people in financial jeopardy.

Best advice - if you have done wrong own up at the earliest opportunity. You'll be credited and may even get away without a conviction and instead a settlement on the door of the court. If you haven't done wrong then of course contest it, but get some advice first (from a qualified lawyer and not someone quoting law on a forum) as the costs of contesting and being convicted of something can be substantial...

mickaveli2001

Yes but ONLY the courts have the authority to impose fines and dictate value based on statute. No private company has the authority to promise fine values regardless of whether or not it has defined boundaries and limits. In doing so, they are acting as if they have the power of law, and they don't.

This is about TV licencing (BBC) and suspecting you of a "crime" before they have even established the facts. Threatening letters are sent full of accusation and suspicion before they even know who lives at an address and threats of court action and £1000 fines, and they do not have right to do so.

Besides, not having a TV licence is not a criminal offence (even if you're watching live feeds) - Because there is no victim involved here. This is a civil offence and a civil matter, which is why everyone you hear of is typically fined a licence fee value, or smaller in order to cover losses at their end. BBC are taking the entire public for a mug. If you want to bend over and say "be gentle" to them, then by all means comply, pay your TV licence and smile knowing that your money helps fund and protect a corrupt corporation that has assisted in covering up the most vile crime imaginable (abusing kids) and still continues to do so, and neglects their responsibility

I will not be forced into a contract against my will, and I continue on not paying for my TV licence. No court summons, no search warrant, no hassle

mickaveli2001

"Best advice - if you have done wrong own up at the earliest opportunity. You'll be credited and may even get away without a conviction"

Now, I've heard this somewhere before. This is very similar to the type of garbage spewed by TV licencing salesmen in order to get you to comply, "claim it's all innocent, and nothing will come of it, if you own up" before you find yourself in court, charged and wondering what the hell just happened...

Don't take that advise folks. TV Licencing are salesmen who bully their way into incriminating you (even falsely if need be) in order to gain £20 post-tax commission. You tell them nothing and treat them like any other salesmen - Shut the door. I have friends who haven't paid TV licences in years, like myself too

swift1_2

Here's a thought, what if the BBC instead of the license fee adopted a subscription model and encrypted its channels? that way people who want to watch can pay the subscription and watch.

mickaveli2001

Kurtis_Blue wrote: »

Then why were you on here asking for advice on cancelling your licence only last week? you also stated you cancelled you licence on the 16th of this month?

The level of inaccurate and poor advice in all your posts is baffling.

I apologize for the confusion. My fault on the way I wrote it. But just so that we are clear. My main concern was finding out if cancelling my direct debit may indeed cause a glitch in my credit rating should they wish to extract any money from me in the future. I had cancelled mine officially via the website on the 13/11/12, thus receiving confirmation on the 16th on the direct debit issue.

The people I know who haven't paid in years have never faced prosecution, let alone a search warrant. There is a very simple approach to avoid paying and all the unnecessary harassment that comes along with it. If people are reluctant or even detest the TV licence for valid reasons then surely they have a right to cancel

Subscription service is the ultimate solution, and far more appropriate but there's a reason they don't do that