Is my case unique????

Werdnal

caxtonman wrote: »

It seems I have touched a raw nerve, for which I apologise, which seems strange as we have done nothing wrong.

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Don't understand?

You asked for advice on whether you can claim anything back from the LL here. Replies have told you where you stand and that this is unlikely to affect the ability for LL to evict you, presuming the S21 is valid and served correctly. Whats the "raw nerve"?

If you are intent to try to pursue the LL for some claim, then that is your right, but I cannot see what you will get out of it. What financial loss have you made, other than a little defamation of character by the LL turning up and shouting at you at work? Can you put a financial figure on this?

As I said earlier, I am not defending the LL, but I think you may be on a hiding to nothing.

Good luck with your claim, would be interested to hear if you get anywhere!

pinkshoes

Personally I wouldn't bother claiming from the LL. Far more stress than it's worth, so best just to move on.

Do a search for renting with pets. You'll find that it's probably easiest just to rent somewhere and not mention the dog. Once you've moved in, offer additional deposit to the LL (incase the dog destroys things!), and make sure you pay for a professional cleaning service at the end of the tenancy.

A bit of grovelling to the LL and reassurance that it's a good dog, and if he does cause any damage, you'll happily pay for it.

Fire_Fox

So what are Environmental Health doing now? Just because you are being evicted the landlord still has all the same repairing obligations. If the landlord only entered your place of work and was abusive once IMO that is not harassment. He can give you a negative reference providing the claims are accurate, are they?

A section 21 is a no fault notice to quit, the landlord can serve it at any time in a periodic tenancy and does not have to have a reason. He should not issue this in retaliation but you would need to prove that he did. The landlord will need to take you to court to get you evicted so you have time to find a new place. Sorry to say but your pets are your own problem not your landlords (and I am a cat slave myself).

moromir

pinkshoes wrote:

Do a search for renting with pets. You'll find that it's probably easiest just to rent somewhere and not mention the dog. Once you've moved in, offer additional deposit to the LL (incase the dog destroys things!), and make sure you pay for a professional cleaning service at the end of the tenancy.

A bit of grovelling to the LL and reassurance that it's a good dog, and if he does cause any damage, you'll happily pay for it.

This sounds like a step by step guide for getting issued with another S21 notice from the new landlord when he finds out they've flat out lied?

tbs624

OP - you have ignored previous posters' comments about whether you have paid a tenancy deposit and whether this has been scheme registered,with the LL giving you the scheme's "prescribed information".

This is relevant because without those two things having been done the LL any s21 Notice will be invalidated and this will obviously give you some extra tim ein which to find a new home.

tbs624

Werdnal wrote: »

What financial loss have you made, other than a little defamation of character by the LL turning up and shouting at you at work? Can you put a financial figure on this?

The Admin Of Justice Act 1970 s40 can, although it's a paltry 100 quid max for the first occasion

tbs624

For Clare212 and the OP - have your say on the Private Rented Sector

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4255533

*Robin*

pinkshoes wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't bother claiming from the LL. Far more stress than it's worth, so best just to move on.

Do a search for renting with pets. You'll find that it's probably easiest just to rent somewhere and not mention the dog. Once you've moved in, offer additional deposit to the LL (incase the dog destroys things!), and make sure you pay for a professional cleaning service at the end of the tenancy.

A bit of grovelling to the LL and reassurance that it's a good dog, and if he does cause any damage, you'll happily pay for it.

My bold. If any tenant tried this with me they could expect to be packing at the end of their AST.

As it happens, I have dogs myself and actually prefer a tenant with pets (as they are likely to behave better and stay longer, knowing how hard it is to find a LL who welcomes their pets).
What I am not prepared to put up with is a tenant who tells lies.
It doesn't matter how well-behaved the dishonest tenant's pets are, if I can't trust someone to be truthful there are thousands of other pet owners who'd be delighted to take on the tenancy.

UnitedSum

*Robin* wrote: »

My bold. If any tenant tried this with me they could expect to be packing at the end of their AST.

As it happens, I have dogs myself and actually prefer a tenant with pets (as they are likely to behave better and stay longer, knowing how hard it is to find a LL who welcomes their pets).
What I am not prepared to put up with is a tenant who tells lies.
It doesn't matter how well-behaved the dishonest tenant's pets are, if I can't trust someone to be truthful there are thousands of other pet owners who'd be delighted to take on the tenancy.

Thank you for accept pets in your property. In my experience the problem that tenants run into, though, is that often it's not the landlord accepting pets that makes things difficult. It's often letting agents who, as soon as you mention that you have a dog or cat, won't deal with you anymore. My solution, which I think is fair, was eventually not to mention my dog until I'd had a viewing and got the opportunity to speak directly with the landlord. That is before any tenancy, etc. begins.

Werdnal

pinkshoes wrote: »

You'll find that it's probably easiest just to rent somewhere and not mention the dog. Once you've moved in, offer additional deposit to the LL (incase the dog destroys things!), and make sure you pay for a professional cleaning service at the end of the tenancy.

A bit of grovelling to the LL and reassurance that it's a good dog, and if he does cause any damage, you'll happily pay for it.

Very, very poor advice. Moving in without declaring you have a dog (or any other pet if its non-pet tenancy), will only get you another Section 21 as soon as the LL can legally issue one to evict you. Do not start out with a lie!

Its not just the damage a pet can cause - its smells, pet hair, fleas etc. Even the most vigilant pet owner who regularly worms, defleas and grooms their pet can never 100% eliminate the problems having a pet in the property can cause. My cat died in August, and we found a live flea in the house over a month later - and I regularly treated her and the carpets, furniture etc.

If you want to try to persuade a LL to take you, offer a reference from previous LL about the suitability of your pet, and agree to pay a higher deposit to cover any additional cleaning/repairs that may be necessary. You may also find it easier to rent unfurnished, as the LL has less risk than in a furnished property.