TOTAL SECURITY PARTNERS - parking fine?!

Sarah198401

Can anyone help?
I visited a friend of mine on Saturday night and stayed overnight. The car park there is managed by Total Security Partners Limited, and in compliance with their notices-I obtained a Visitors pass and displayed it clearly in my window.
I returned to my friends today, parked in the same visitors space (there are only 3) , and displayed a visitors pass again.
Unfortunately on leaving just a short while ago to find a PARKING FINE on my windscreen from TSP.
The parking charge states that my car was seen on Sun morning and again this morning and it contravenes the site parking restrictions as displayed on the signage or permit! And the fine is for £100!!!
It doesn't say anywhere on the TSP signs on the car park that you are subject to a time limit or to only visit friends once... Do I have to pay the charge?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

peter_the_piper

No.
Just ignore them, its very rare that any private parking company pursues beyond rude letters and tame debt collectors who are impotent.
If it gets too threatening come back, but I don't expect you will have to.

Sarah198401

Thank you

Half_way

Does it realy say parking fine?

Coupon-mad

What an utterly rubbish website! Don't respond or send this lot your details at all.

http://www.totalsecuritypartners.com/page.php?pagid=1000

I couldn't get the 'services' tab to work and the rest is just awful and over-written. No mention of appeals or the BPA or POPLA, nothing useful at all.

They are listed on the BPA 'AOS members' page but I suspect they are new so it's possible they cannot even get DVLA access yet, so quite possibly they cannot send any letters out as they can't yet get addresses. I suspect they may be ex-clampers switching to rogue tickets so the website is a rush-job.

Ignore them, but any chance of posting a redacted (anonymous) copy of the 'ticket' so we can add it to the new letterchains link? We don't have that company yet and it would help others to see the 'ticket'. Also any letters you do get, would be worth scrutiny for any breach, they are bound to get something wrong, so please post them or send them by private message each time, to Crabman who keeps this info current:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2214803


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The_Slithy_Tove

Coupon-mad wrote: »

What an utterly rubbish website! Don't respond or send this lot your details at all.

http://www.totalsecuritypartners.com/page.php?pagid=1000

I couldn't get the 'services' tab to work and the rest is just awful and over-written. No mention of appeals or the BPA or POPLA, nothing useful at all.

And no company registration number on the site. Naughty, naughty.

trisontana

It looks as though that website was constructed using a random word generator full of meaningless "management speak".

2eyes

hi all,
i have received a fine and have one day left to pay the £60 reduced rate. I am still considering whether to pay this. I have been fined for not displaying a valid permit and they have pictures of my car on there site when I log in. What should i do?? should i pay this?

The_Slithy_Tove

2eyes wrote: »

should i pay this?

Of course not.

Now while you ponder that, have a longer look around this forum to discover why you shouldn't even consider it.

peter_the_piper

Why are you considering paying, you will make some members here cry and you would not like that would you?:j
Just ignore them is the usual advice

Coupon-mad

2eyes wrote: »

hi all,
i have received a fine and have one day left to pay the £60 reduced rate. I am still considering whether to pay this. I have been fined for not displaying a valid permit and they have pictures of my car on there site when I log in. What should i do?? should i pay this?

Surely you are not still thinking about paying this scam? IT IS NOT A FINE!! You do not even have a real parking ticket, it's just a piece of rubbish. Stop taking it seriously and stop logging in as if it's a real PCN which it is NOT.

Like all the other posters on this board, you have a fake PCN.

As long as it's not a company/hire/lease car (which I assume it's not as they sent the fake PCN to you) then you can just ignore it and ignore the other letters that will arrive. The letters are easy to ignore and laugh at, when they arrive at the address of someone who knows it's all hogwash and not a real parking ticket at all.

The whole scam of fake PCNs relies firstly on people's ignorance of the fact that a random private company can't fine anyone, and secondly on their natural fear of parking tickets and the escalating costs/bailiff scenario. So PPCs copy the look of a real parking ticket and - hey presto! - the cash rolls in from victims who know no better.

There is no fine, no CCJ, no bailiff, no debt, no effect on credit rating, no Court, no repercussions at all. Don't be a victim.

Tick off the threatening letters here.

Watchdog clip with expert Solicitor's opinion, using a fake PCN with nice photos of a car (like your fake PCN!) here.

Barrister's opinion - read the answer at the bottom, it's very clear! - here.

Just to advise that your other option (in England and Wales for an incident since 1st Oct) if you are so minded, is to cost the company £32+ by appealing the fake ticket. This applies only if the company is an AOS member with DVLA access. Which company issued it?

Then when rejected, appeal it further to the very new (untried but free and independent) POPLA appeals service. The decision is only binding on the PPC and costs them money either way - so us regulars would do that and then we'd go back to ignoring the PPC afterwards if POPLA didn't order the fake PCN to be cancelled!

If you prefer an easier life then I recommend you just play snap with the threatograms from debt collectors - simply choose to ignore and laugh at the scammer and their attempt to extort money. It's like deleting obvious phishing emails from your 'Bank'; it's a very similar con based on impersonation of authority.

If you'd prefer to appeal then do that but in the sure and certain knowledge you will NEVER pay it, and only to cost the PPC money.