landlord wants to come round and collect his mail

tbs624

ref post 91

3. Landlord is supposed to give notice of proposed visits Yes, which can be in writing, or verbal

Clearly then, real1314, you are unfamiliar with the statutory advance notice for proposed inspection visits

...... may at reasonable times of the day and on giving 24 hours’ notice in writing to the occupier, enter the premises......

Where is the word verbal in that clause ?

You're clearly talking on a subject that you have limited knowledge of,

Indeed <grin>

Fire_Fox

real1314 wrote: »

You're clearly talking on a subject that you have limited knowledge of, and even areas where you should have knowledge are failing to apply the same degree of judgement to both sides of the argument, displaying your inherent bias.

Text, email, letter, phone call, face to face are all good methods of communication depending on the content, speed and people involved. You need to get over your obsession with letters. :cool:

Obsession with letters displayed in a post where I suggested e-mail for semi-formal communication?? Did you even read the post? :rotfl:

sniggings

propertyman wrote: »

Marvellous exercising "rights-teousness" not common sense.

You can

a: both use the box duh
b: put a note "use letter box" ->
c: put it round the back or side

it might not suit every property but at least I have suggested solutions with the least inconvenience to all and a practical approach rather than bleating "renters rights" which say a lot about "chips on shoulders" than a pragmatic approach.

But that is all thanks for playing along " McCains" on a wet afternoon on a dull train journey :rotfl:

which is worse, as now you are suggesting the landlord has access to the tenants mail :rotfl:

You should have stuck to letting us think you meant having two letter boxes, as at least that is better than giving someone you do not know access to private mail duh.

So not only does the tenant now have to go outside each morning to get his mail from the box at the back or side of the house, instead of just picking it up off the floor, the poor postie have to Hunter the letter box each morning, as you are suggesting the door letter box is sealed up :rotfl: compared to this, having two letter boxes looks appealing now :rotfl:

melancholly

Callie22 wrote: »

It always amazes me how many landlords are quite happy for their post to go to their tenanted properties. Given that most seem to think that tenants are the scum of the earth, why would they want all of their personal and financial information being delivered straight into the hands of these devils?

You know, there have been occasions where I've opened post without really checking the address enough and I've opened things for a previous tenant or the LL. It's not me trying to find things out or being nosey, just an honest mistake when you get a day with lots of envelopes and you skim through them. In one case, I just put it in a new envelope with a note on top and posted it to the LL - it was just an honest mistake.

Deliberately sending potentially personal information like this is just plain mad as far as I can tell. Especially when all it needs is a quick phone call to Royal Mail to set up forwarding.... Whether a tenant should be upset by this or how they should communicate or all the other tangents, I think a LL who gets important post sent to somewhere where someone else lives has to be an idiot. It's a really stupid thing to do.

propertyman

Fire_Fox wrote: »

So if the tenant politely asks the landlord to redirect his business mail he is at high risk of a section 21, BUT if the communal lift breaks down for two weeks the tenant should threaten to withhold rent for two days a month and is not at risk of a section 21. One is the direct result of the landlord being lazy/ tight, the other is not his fault: not really seeing the logic in the suggestions. :think:

Well that is the root of it, you apply logic and common sense to fill your ignorance.

Your assumption is he is lazy and tight- I have suggested that there are more reasons than that, and therefore more than one outcome. perhaps you struggle when the world is something that you can't put into neat little boxes.

That's evidenced by your unwillingness to ask learn or understand, even explore another context or complexity.

Then you might understand why that applying two different threads with two different problems, and my suggestions both of which multiple outcomes, has nothing to do with logic.

But ok, on the latter I am sure he will get a solution with your idea "formally put it in writing":rotfl: I am sure that never occurred to the OP....

FTBFun

propertyman wrote: »

Mine is a qualified legal view

What is your legal qualification that makes this so?

tbs624

propertyman wrote: »

......Then you might understand why that applying two different threads with two different problems, and my suggestions both of which multiple outcomes, has nothing to do with logic...

Can anyone offer a translation?

UnitedSum

tbs624 wrote: »

Can anyone offer a translation?

LOL. Based on the other posts, somehow I think it's not worth the trouble.

zappahey

melancholly wrote: »

You know, there have been occasions where I've opened post without really checking the address enough and I've opened things for a previous tenant or the LL.

I open every piece of mail that comes through my door, regardless of what name is on the envelope, especially when I was renting.

If I didn't then I wouldn't have discovered that my LL had a residential mortgage (and no consent to let), nor that creditors were planning to send bailiffs to recover the previous owner's debts.

RaySaj

happens quite a lot, especially on short term tenancy agreements...what I would is put a box outside if there is space and put the mail in there....just with a reason saying that the property is cleaned by someone and the mail is not safe indoors...