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Simple list of tariffs

steve-L
steve-L Posts: 12,981 Forumite
Where can I find gas and electricity prices in simple (kWh)?
Every comparison site seems to make you go through hoops to find a single plan and then you finally find out what the actual tariffs are. I just want the price/kWh
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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
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    There are thousands of combinations of tariffs.

    Different companies, different tariffs, 13 geographic areas all with different prices, different discounts, No Service charge, daily service charge, different tier 1 quotas, seasonal weighting etc etc.

    Enter your post code, and approx consumption into energyhelpline and the kWh price is a click away.
  • ic
    ic Posts: 3,459 Forumite
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    As above, there is no such thing as a simple list - the price paid differs for everybody and can't only be compared on kWh alone.
  • ic wrote: »
    As above, there is no such thing as a simple list - the price paid differs for everybody and can't only be compared on kWh alone.

    I disagree - I know my last year's kWh consumption, and in order to compare tariffs, I simply need to know the different companies prices

    This information is extremely hard to get
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
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    I disagree - I know my last year's kWh consumption, and in order to compare tariffs, I simply need to know the different companies prices

    This information is extremely hard to get

    It takes seconds.

    In www.energyhelpline.com enter your postcode and consumption in kWh. You don't need to bother with your present company - just use the default.

    In the next screen how you want to pay and it will list every tariff(around 80) For each of those tariffs the full details are shown e.g.

    http://www.energyhelpline.com/cashbackmse/fri/Domesticenergy/Domestic/TariffDetails?GasTariff=620979&ElecTariff=613256&RegionCode=5&SpecialOffers=


    Supplier and Tariff Details


    [URL="javascript:window.print()"][print][/URL][close window]





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    E.ON



    Formerly known as Powergen, E.ON is one of the largest
    gas and electricity companies in the UK with around 8 million customers. They
    offer a range of low-priced tariffs and have a history of good customer service.


    We have given E.ON a 3 star service rating based on the number of cases
    raised against them by Consumer Focus. They offer an extended hours 0845
    customer service centre and the ability to fully manage your account
    online.

    E.ON offers extra discounts to those customers managing their
    account online and a loyalty reward after 1 year, 2 years and 3
    years.

    The Age UK tariff offers special perks to elderly people and can
    also be very good value.

    If you switch away from E.ON discounts for the
    most recent quarter are paid pro rata on the final bill. Tesco Club Card points
    can no longer be used as part payment of E.ON energy bills.



    Tariff Details


    Name

    E.ON - Energy
    Discount

    Region

    Midlands


    Payment method

    Monthly Direct Debit

    Features

    • Extended hours local rate customer service centre
    • 3% discount against standard prices for 12 months
    • Cancellation fees apply


      Pricing Details


      Breakdown

      Gas

      Electricity


      Standing charge

      36.62 p per day
      (£133.68 per year)
      26.53 p per day
      (£96.85 per year)


      Unit charge (pence per
      kWh)
      3.538 p

      11.697 p


      Discounts

      Direct debit customers
      receive a discount of 6% off their total annual bill. Dual fuel customers
      receive a discount of £10.50 per year.



      All prices shown are inclusive of VAT
      at 5%.
    • steve-L
      steve-L Posts: 12,981 Forumite
      I disagree - I know my last year's kWh consumption, and in order to compare tariffs, I simply need to know the different companies prices

      This information is extremely hard to get


      All I want to know is the kWh and standing charge.



      A Tier1/Tier2 tariff is just a way of obfuscating the standing charge so to simplify my life I will only look at tariffs with a standing charge.

      All I want is a simple set of tarrifs per supplier for my area.
      How hard can it be?
    • steve-L
      steve-L Posts: 12,981 Forumite
      Cardew wrote: »
      It takes seconds.

      In

      In the next screen how you want to pay and it will list every tariff(around 80) For each of those tariffs the full details are shown e.g.
      That's the point I don't want to have to go through all 80 for each possible supplier... I just want the 80 in a single table. (or even better one table with all suppliers for my region

      SUPPLIER, TARIFF NAME, STANDING CHARGE elec, £/kWh elec, STANDING CHARGE GAS, £/kWh gas...
    • steve-L wrote: »
      All I want to know is the kWh and standing charge

      Follow Cardew's advice, and report back...
    • Cardew
      Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
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      edited 26 October 2012 at 9:13PM
      Post#5 above shows you how to get this info in seconds.

      However most of us want to know all the tariffs including those with a tier structure as for some people they work out cheaper.

      what is your difficulty? They are listed in a single table cheapest first
    • steve-L
      steve-L Posts: 12,981 Forumite
      Cardew wrote: »
      Post#5 above shows you how to get this info in seconds.

      However most of us want to know all the tariffs including those with a tier structure as for some people they work out cheaper.

      what is your difficulty? They are listed in a single table cheapest first

      No the tariffs are listed, not the kWh rates. To get the kWh rates I need to click to the next screen. (One at a time)

      What I am looking for is a page with ALL available tariffs for a supplier showing the kWh price and their standing charge.

      Cheapest First? that all depends on the usage and accuracy of their calculations even if I knew what energy I'd use.
      I am not interested in their calculations of what is cheapest.

      Depending which comparison site I use they have different tariffs come up as 'cheapest' with the same information and 'saving me' different amounts. (For the same data entered)

      This indicates that of the 4 sites I tried at least 3 MUST be wrong.... though I strongly suspect non of them are accurate.

      Regardless of this how can I trust their calculations when I can't see their working?????


      What I need to know are the kWh costs of ALL possible tariffs for every supplier for my area. I can do this supplier by supplier but not tariff by supplier or I end up with having to go to hundreds of pages to get the information to put into my model.

      I can't see why the Tiered tariffs would be cheaper for anyone?
      If they were, why would the energy companies be listing them that way? There might be a few instances where they might be but I'm happy to miss them out. The tiered charges are just a way of obfuscating the standing charge anyway and penalising low usage customers at the same time. If the regulator had any teeth it would force them to show the tier1 as a standing charge.

      I am not looking at a simple case of switching but at reducing my energy bill overall.

      This involves a lot of other variables such as replacing halogen spots with LED or ripping out the fittings and fitting compact fluorescents... (of which I have a box full), changing the fridge freezer and a lot of other variables.

      I have 36 50W 12v Halogens ... how many should I replace with 240v LED's? (including buying GU10 connectors to replace the MR16's) ... and how many do I leave based on I have 38 12v Halogen bulbs and I am only renting for 2 years...???

      Is it worth buying a new fridge freezer?

      To do this I need the electricity prices available to me and as this is potentially tied to my gas supplier I need that as well.
    • steve-L
      steve-L Posts: 12,981 Forumite
      Follow Cardew's advice, and report back...

      I followed it .... and what I get is a list of tariffs.
      If I limit this to dual fuel and with a fixed price I get 22 options... each of which I must click to then find the information I want....
      If I don't limit it to dual fuel and fixed price I get several hundred results, each of which I have to click and copy/paste the resulting 4 numbers from a page.

      If this is 300 long and each one takes me a minute to get the information I need this is 5-6 hours of clicking to get a simple list.

      Again, what I am looking for is a list of kWh prices and standing charges.
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