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Retired people could work for pensions..
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check the facts
british coal wasn't replaced by foreign coal; it was replaced by cheap clean north sea gas.
forget all that nonsense about maggie smashing the miners; British Gas actually closed down the mines.
I believe that in the 1990 5% of electricy was produced by gas 31% is still produced by coal.0 -
And it's still cheaper to use imported coal than itis to produce it in our own country.
The cost of closing the mines I bet would be covered by the number of personal injury claims for coal miners in subsequent years.
Coal mining in the pits was a third world industry. How many villages would have been happy with open cast?0 -
And it's still cheaper to use imported coal than itis to produce it in our own country.
The cost of closing the mines I bet would be covered by the number of personal injury claims for coal miners in subsequent years.
Coal mining in the pits was a third world industry. How many villages would have been happy with open cast?
Cheaper in cost per ton but it is not as simple as that.0 -
I believe that in the 1990 5% of electricy was produced by gas 31% is still produced by coal.
coal was used to produce electricity, town gas and was used for directly for domestic and commercial space and water heating
North Sea gas virtually wiped out all uses except electricity production
Of course the depletion of cheap and readily available coal was a significant factor but north sea gas was a major driver in reduced demand for UK coal0 -
coal was used to produce electricity, town gas and was used for directly for domestic and commercial space and water heating
North Sea gas virtually wiped out all uses except electricity production
Of course the depletion of cheap and readily available coal was a significant factor but north sea gas was a major driver in reduced demand for UK coal
As you asked earlier I have checked figures
In 1973 coal consumption in UK was 133 million tons in 1980 it was 124 falling to 108 in 1990 last year it was 51 million. UK coal production fell from in excess of 100 million tons in 1980 to 50 million tons in 1990 .
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coal was used to produce electricity, town gas and was used for directly for domestic and commercial space and water heating
North Sea gas virtually wiped out all uses except electricity production
Of course the depletion of cheap and readily available coal was a significant factor but north sea gas was a major driver in reduced demand for UK coal
So we had gas production increasing for less than 10 years, maybe we should have kept those pits open and saved our gas/oil for when we really needed it
http://www.decc.gov.uk/assets/decc/11/stats/publications/dukes/2329-statistical-press-release.pdfGross natural gas production fell 4.3 per cent in 2010. Gross natural gas production has fallen by 47.3 per cent since its peak in 2000.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
So we had gas production increasing for less than 10 years, maybe we should have kept those pits open and saved our gas/oil for when we really needed it
http://www.decc.gov.uk/assets/decc/11/stats/publications/dukes/2329-statistical-press-release.pdf
it's an interesting point
should we now stop all oil and ags production in UK waters to save the resources for future generations?0 -
So we had gas production increasing for less than 10 years, maybe we should have kept those pits open and saved our gas/oil for when we really needed it
http://www.decc.gov.uk/assets/decc/11/stats/publications/dukes/2329-statistical-press-release.pdf
We have 100s of years of coal reserves. Somehow when push comes to shove they will be reopened and CO2/dirty fuel will be the least of peoples worries."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
And it's still cheaper to use imported coal than itis to produce it in our own country.
The cost of closing the mines I bet would be covered by the number of personal injury claims for coal miners in subsequent years.
Coal mining in the pits was a third world industry. How many villages would have been happy with open cast?
Coal mines were closed because it was cheaper to import .
The fact it saved some injury claims was a byproduct of closure not the reason for it. I very much doubt we are too bothered by the health issues of miners from where coal is now imported.
Can't dispute that coal mining was dangerous and unhealthy, it didn't have to be but that would simply have increased production costs. The reason that private pits had limited success. Economic and falling demand.
The wiping out and decimation of whole communities with nothing to replace the lost mines cost us dearly and continues to do so in welfare and social costs."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
it's an interesting point
should we now stop all oil and ags production in UK waters to save the resources for future generations?
An interesting question. I doubt it will happen unless the figures no longer stack up.
Loss of resources is arguably worse for our children/grand children than the national debt."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0
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