Retired people could work for pensions..

CRISPIANNE3

What a bl....dy cheek. I have paid into two final salary schemes and worked hard so I can now take things easier. As far as I am concerned my pension is my right and should not be made to feel guilty drawing it.

I suggest they pick on the people who have never made an effort to work
and get them motivated and leave the pensioners to enjoy their retirement.

ash28

I am early retired, receive no benefits and still pay income tax (and always will). And no, I wasn't a public sector worker.

Will I be a benefit scab or a taxpayer in 10 years time when I get the state pension? Obviously the amount of income tax I pay will increase then.

I also think you'll find a large part of voluntary work, along with unpaid childcare is already carried out by retired people.

And I object to government telling me how to spend my retirement.

StevieJ

Sapphire wrote: »

A pension is not a 'benefit', just as (for example) taxpayers' paying for people to churn out sprogs on the NHS is not.

I wouldn't worry about him, he must think everyone is like him and can retire on a public sector pension in their 30's

Sapphire

StevieJ wrote: »

I wouldn't worry about him, he must think everyone is like him and can retire on a public sector pension in their 30's

A query in passing, which I've actually been meaning to pose somewhere for a while: why is it that the vast majority of politicians and other people with considerable wealth are so ugly, like this man is? Do you think they become bloated and pasty-faced because of the copious amounts of rich food and alcohol they imbibe?

The only really good-looking very affluent person I can think of is Zac Goldsmith, but I suppose he is something of a wild card (a bit like his father was), and he is also an environmentalist …

There I go again, OT.

xylophone

Today's OAPs have paid their NI, their taxes, and in very many cases contributed to their occupational pensions when for a great number of them this meant a real sacrifice in take home pay.

I might also add that except for the poorest, today's OAPs are still paying taxes!
You need to do some research before you commit fingers to keypad!

PaulF81

CRISPIANNE3 wrote: »

What a bl....dy cheek. I have paid into two final salary schemes and worked hard so I can now take things easier. As far as I am concerned my pension is my right and should not be made to feel guilty drawing it.

I suggest they pick on the people who have never made an effort to work
and get them motivated and leave the pensioners to enjoy their retirement.

you didnt pay enough into the system to entitle you to what the state pension pays out today.

instead, you expect younger generations to pay your way. admittedly, you seem to have done the decent thing and got a private pension.

just because you are old doesnt change the fact some oaps have lived their lives taking more from the state than they have put in. oaps shouldnt be entitled to any more than younger generations can expect to recieve when they retire.

ukcarper

National debt 2007 £504billion national debt 2012 £1.3 trillion did something happen

ukcarper

PaulF81 wrote: »

you didnt pay enough into the system to entitle you to what the state pension pays out today.

instead, you expect younger generations to pay your way. admittedly, you seem to have done the decent thing and got a private pension.

just because you are old doesnt change the fact some oaps have lived their lives taking more from the state than they have put in. oaps shouldnt be entitled to any more than younger generations can expect to recieve when they retire.

Just out of interest how much have you put in Lets not forget you have taken quite a bit out education etc.

PaulF81

yes, the liabilities mainly as a result of the nhs being over budgeted and too many other liabilities finally caught up.

the main problem has been the drop in tax reciepts as the system created to aid the boomer generation crumbled in pieces in 2008.

ukcarper

PaulF81 wrote: »

yes, the liabilities mainly as a result of the nhs being over budgeted and too many other liabilities finally caught up.

the main problem has been the drop in tax reciepts as the system created to aid the boomer generation crumbled in pieces in 2008.

Nothing to do with the banking crisis.