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Civil Service Minimum / Maximum Salary bands

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  • Ash1982
    Ash1982 Posts: 189 Forumite
    The voluntary redundancy package was even better than the work experience :rotfl:

    Did you get 3 months for every year worked? couple of years wages or did you get caught by the 15 month cap?
  • mildred1978
    mildred1978 Posts: 3,367 Forumite
    Ash1982 wrote: »
    Did you get 3 months for every year worked? couple of years wages or did you get caught by the 15 month cap?

    3 months per year to a maximum of 10 years.
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  • Ash1982
    Ash1982 Posts: 189 Forumite
    Thats crazy when statutory redundancy is 1 week per year worked is it not?

    Roll on the CS T&Cs review.....
  • wantsajob
    wantsajob Posts: 705 Forumite
    Ash1982 wrote: »
    Roll on the CS T&Cs review.....
    Yet more cost cutting and taking away. Freezing wages isn't enough. Don't blame them really, but if they take it too far I foresee strikes etc.
    Wanted a job, now have one. :beer:
  • busy_mom_2
    busy_mom_2 Posts: 1,391 Forumite
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    Funny how things differ between departments, I'm certainly in the wrong one!
  • mildred1978
    mildred1978 Posts: 3,367 Forumite
    Ash1982 wrote: »
    Thats crazy when statutory redundancy is 1 week per year worked is it not?

    Roll on the CS T&Cs review.....

    I saw it as a payoff for years of overwork, lack of appreciation and broken promises.
    Science adjusts its views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved.
    :A Tim Minchin :A
  • toobel wrote: »
    Hi,

    I have an interview next week with a civil service department. The level is EO/HEO. This is is the first time I have been involved with any CS recruitment. I have a question about the minimum salary benchmark. My understanding is that the salaries are not raised incrementally. And additionally that there is a salary freeze for some CS employees at the moment.

    Given this, I wondered how the starting salary is decided upon. Is this negotiated at interview? I would only accept the job at midway point between the minimum and maximum salary. Is it acceptable for me to be so direct with such a statement in a CS interview? I have only ever worked in the private sector and so any feedback would be great.

    Thanks!

    Toobel

    When I worked for a government body in London I was used to incremental pay where I would hit my salary maximum in one year. CS is completely different. When you are posted in the new role you start at the bottom of the band. You have to wait a whole YEAR and then the pay increases. I didn't know this until I joined DWP. If I had known there wasn't going to be a pay increase directly after probation I wouldn't have taken up my post.
  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,022 Forumite
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    All departments are different in T&Cs, the monolithic CS was done away with in the mid-late eighties. For some the pay freeze has been a total freeze & for some its meant no inflation increase but, contractual, annual increments have been paid

    Again, depending on department, they could offer "higher starting pay" and you don't start on the bottom but it depends on market forces (ie can they recruit/retain at that point), your relevant qualifications/experience etc
  • Hmm71
    Hmm71 Posts: 479 Forumite
    edited 24 October 2012 at 9:42AM
    Ash1982 wrote: »
    I'm a CS and the pay freeze doesn't include pay progression in my department (i.e. you work your way up the salary points) but there is no inflation adjustment so in effect a pay freeze once you are top of the pay scale (i.e. the majority of people).

    One of my colleagues tried to negioatate their salary (we are surveyors) and she didn't get anywhere. You start on the minimum, take it or leave it!

    You need to not just think core salary, you need to add the monetary value of extra annual leave, flexi time, pension etc. Its not just a straight comparison with the private sector.

    If you ever get to the top of the pay scale! After eight and a half years in the Civil Service I was still not at the top. And that was with top box marking on my annual review almost every year.
  • Hmm71
    Hmm71 Posts: 479 Forumite
    Ash1982 wrote: »
    Did you get 3 months for every year worked? couple of years wages or did you get caught by the 15 month cap?

    It's changed now. It's one month per year worked up to a maximum of 21 months but when I took voluntary redundancy earlier in the year they put a low pay underpin in place. It meant that anyone earning under £23,000 would have their package calculated on a minimum of £23,000 a year.
    Still incredibly generous compared to the stat min though.
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