should anyone who is on benefits that wins the lottery be forced to give 90% of

POPPYOSCAR

Well I work and I pay my taxes and I do not begrudge someone on benefits having the odd flutter now and again.

Better than spending it on cigarettes and drink etc.

At least if they win a reasonable amount they will be off benefits.

Loughton_Monkey

How about a different approach?

Add up the cost of benefits. Say £100bn. Now adjust for what we want to pay. Let's say £60bn.

So now set up a £60bn annual fund - very much like Premium Bonds but just with £50 prizes. Give the claimants X or Y tickets (depending upon their degree of 'entitlement'), and then enter the tickets in the draw.

On a lucky week, they might 'win' £500. On a poor week, only £50. Over the year, they would be statistically expected to get more or less their fair share.

Advantages:

• Would give practical teaching of how to save and budget.
• Would reduce the benefits bill overall.
• Would give hours of endless fun & excitement for the ticket holders.

Percy1983

Eellogofusciouhipoppokunu wrote: »

You only get banned from this forum if you cross Graham Devon and his 'gang' (aka sock puppets). His strategy is to flood the mods with complaints from several usernames and as the mods have very little time to spare, they ban out of hand rather than look at patterns of bullying on the forum.

Apparently you must have crossed Graham Devon because he is already saying you are the reincarnation of a banned forum member (he is using the same tactic on me). I would not be surprised if we soon get the push as Devon uses his pals and various sock puppets to flood the forum moderators with ban requests.

No one else says anything, even 'wotsthat'. 'purch' or 'Hamish' because they know that they are barely tolerated by Devon and if the openly criticise him they will be next!

I only notice people get banned when they are out of order.

Back on subject, the greater question to me is should somebody on benefits be able to afford to play the lottery?

sss555s

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

How about a different approach?

Add up the cost of benefits. Say £100bn. Now adjust for what we want to pay. Let's say £60bn.

So now set up a £60bn annual fund - very much like Premium Bonds but just with £50 prizes. Give the claimants X or Y tickets (depending upon their degree of 'entitlement'), and then enter the tickets in the draw.

On a lucky week, they might 'win' £500. On a poor week, only £50. Over the year, they would be statistically expected to get more or less their fair share.

Advantages:

• Would give practical teaching of how to save and budget.
• Would reduce the benefits bill overall.
• Would give hours of endless fun & excitement for the ticket holders.

But labour would lobby for a "think tank comity" to run the project with many staff and have "celebs" to do the draw.

It would all cost £120bn and they would still f**k it up!

Everyone's a loser :beer:

SailorSam

Do you think when the day comes that people receive their benefit, if they still have food in the cupboard they're obviously being given more than they need on a weekly basis. Should they give some benefit back.

Daedalus

No, benefits are set at what the average person needs to survive. You will get people who will spend 3 hours in Tescos a day to hoover up the 10p loaf. If you make savings from your benefits you shouldn't be punished,

wotsthat

Eellogofusciouhipoppokunu wrote: »

No one else says anything, even 'wotsthat'. 'purch' or 'Hamish' because they know that they are barely tolerated by Devon and if the openly criticise him they will be next!

It's not true though. If this board was only occupied by people that Graham could tolerate how many would be left?

Loughton Monkey would have been run out of town ages ago.

The_White_Horse

sailorsam wrote: »

do you think when the day comes that people receive their benefit, if they still have food in the cupboard they're obviously being given more than they need on a weekly basis. Should they give some benefit back.

yes!!!!!!!!!!!

ILW

Daedalus wrote: »

No, benefits are set at what the average person needs to survive. You will get people who will spend 3 hours in Tescos a day to hoover up the 10p loaf. If you make savings from your benefits you shouldn't be punished,

There should not be any room for savings in benefit payments. They are supposed to be a safety net, not a way of life. (Excluding disability etc)

The_White_Horse

exactly - benefits should be on a prepaid card and only certain items should be allowed.