Bluebadge Vrs Residents Disabled Bay

pogofish

taffy056 wrote: »

Yes in a handful of places, mostly in supermarket car parks. This I would almost guarantee fall outside of that, as the council has already indicated.

Nope - Its the other way round. Virtually all the legal disabled spaces on private land under the DPPPA have been established in the residential context - I've only found one instance of DPPPA enforcement in a supermarket car park and that was the thread here last week.

pogofish

!!!!!! wrote: »

It may do, things are slightly different in Scotland

Not if Britannia are ticketing. DPPPA enforcement requires that wayleave is granted for council patrollers to issue legal council tickets.

Coupon-mad

taffy056 wrote: »

Interesting angle coupon, how would the council know they were disadvantaging disabled folk by selling the land ? Surely as the owner they have a right to sell if they wish ? And as they have no control over the land now, what do you expect them to do ?

The Council has a duty to know if they are disadvantaging any protected groups and to consider the impact of decisions/procedures/policies within the scope of the Equality Act.

It's because the Council is the Landlord in this case, and used to own the land and therefore they used to provide disabled bays for the residents. If they sell it off they have to consider the potential impact on protected groups - such as any disabled residents - as part of the decision-making process. I would be asking to see evidence of that if it was my relative.

In Scotland, the duties are summarised here:

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/scotland/public-sector-equality-duty/non-statutory-guidance-for-scottish-public-authorities/

I would be looking at the first, third and fifth links there if I was the OP; there's plenty of info there about the disability-related duty of any public authority in Scotland. The Council should be able to show evidence of regard to their duty under the Act - there may not have been an 'Equality Impact Assessment' (a document not needed for each and every decision) but consideration must have been made about the impact of selling land that the residents relied upon.

marcellep

real1314 wrote: »

something doesn't make sense here.

if the council have sold the land to britannia, and britannia have allocated the spaces as disabled residents spaces, then where are britannia getting income from to sustain their investment?

PPCs don't buy non-charging land with only the limited potential to issue invoices.

OP - you need to re-check your facts imho. :cool:

I said the land did belong to council, they sold it to someone else but basically retained 8 spaces. Now that outfit Britannia are patrolling it. I am not saying they own it.

marcellep

Coupon-mad wrote: »

The Council has a duty to know if they are disadvantaging any protected groups and to consider the impact of decisions/procedures/policies within the scope of the Equality Act.

It's because the Council is the Landlord in this case, and used to own the land and therefore they used to provide disabled bays for the residents. If they sell it off they have to consider the potential impact on protected groups - such as any disabled residents - as part of the decision-making process. I would be asking to see evidence of that if it was my relative.

In Scotland, the duties are summarised here:

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/scotland/public-sector-equality-duty/non-statutory-guidance-for-scottish-public-authorities/

I would be looking at the first, third and fifth links there if I was the OP; there's plenty of info there about the disability-related duty of any public authority in Scotland. The Council should be able to show evidence of regard to their duty under the Act - there may not have been an 'Equality Impact Assessment' (a document not needed for each and every decision) but consideration must have been made about the impact of selling land that the residents relied upon.

Thanks I have written to the outfit Britinnia asking their opinion on this. It's a very confusing saga

marcellep

Update time

Right wrote to Britannia parking, they responded with attitude

Firstly

The land belongs to Chester another company

North Lanarkshire council rent spaces from Chester

And this company just issue the tickets.

So what do I do now?

taffy056

Well did they say about parking there? If they refuse her a parking spot what was the reason? clearly this is private land though, and these are not real tickets, unless they are under what pogofish said in post #22. I would be inclined to park there with her disabled parking badge on display, its a disabled bay its not used, so I can't see a problem.

DUTR

marcellep wrote: »

Update time

Right wrote to Britannia parking, they responded with attitude

Firstly

The land belongs to Chester another company

North Lanarkshire council rent spaces from Chester

And this company just issue the tickets.

So what do I do now?

What part of they do not want you to park there do you not understand?
Certain places blue badge or not, they won't clamp or tow your car, but the owner will be damn sorry they parked unauthorised after their car is vandalised! But yes fight the good fight. Where are you parking at present then?

marcellep

taffy056 wrote: »

Well did they say about parking there? If they refuse her a parking spot what was the reason? clearly this is private land though, and these are not real tickets, unless they are under what pogofish said in post #22. I would be inclined to park there with her disabled parking badge on display, its a disabled bay its not used, so I can't see a problem.

They said if she parks there she will be issued a ticket as she would be breaching their parking regulations.

The council say all spaces are allocated and used which is nonsense, 4 remain free all day and night.

marcellep

DUTR wrote: »

What part of they do not want you to park there do you not understand?
Certain places blue badge or not, they won't clamp or tow your car, but the owner will be damn sorry they parked unauthorised after their car is vandalised! But yes fight the good fight. Where are you parking at present then?

Think you need to calm down and drop the attitude.

Away on another thread and annoy someone else.