Why doesn't Cameron want Scottish Independence?

zagubov

robmatic wrote: »

The SNP have an overwhelming majority of 1 seat at the moment.

There are some really obvious reasons for their electoral success:

The Tories in Scotland are unelectable.

People are fed up of Labour after the Blair years, and all the big-hitting Scottish Labour politicians are in Westminster for some reason.

The SNP don't actually do anything, apart from give out a few 'freebies' of questionable affordability. It's easy to be a party of government when all you have to do is spend money while other people collect the taxes.

Majority of 1 seat ..over whom, I wonder?
Labour, Tories LibDems? Oh yes it's all of them plus the Greens. SSP and independents too! In a system set up to avoid majorities at all costs! And polls show they'd do even better now!

Ah well, no wonder Cameron rarely meets Salmond. He probably can't resist asking what it must feel like to win an election.:D

sss555s

Generali wrote: »

The Spanish (and other) fishermen own the rights to fish in Scottish waters having bought the rights. Scotland would not be able to take back those rights under EU law. I guess they could send the military in to enforce what they see as their rights but I wouldn't fancy their chances against the Spanish.

The UK would have to hand the relative payment to Scotland.

It's no big deal.

zagubov

sss555s wrote: »

The UK would have to hand the relative payment to Scotland.

It's no big deal.

I'd be worried for the Spanish in case they haven't kept their receipt; they'd need it when they go back to London for any refunds:beer:

Loughton_Monkey

zagubov wrote: »

I'd be worried for the Spanish in case they haven't kept their receipt; they'd need it when they go back to London for any refunds:beer:

I'm not aware of the Sapnish ever being bothered about paperwork, or 'rights', on where they fish.

chewmylegoff

zagubov wrote: »

Westminster parties do, right enough. Will the power-hungry find Holyrood big enough? I'm betting not and that's why they're getting the better quality politicos. The scum's rising to London.


It clearly hasn't mattered whether they did that or not.

Spain better hope Scotland doesn't resell their fishing rights to somebody bigger !

By better quality do you mean lying self interested egotistical idiots? I can't see why anyone would believe the SNP are any better quality than any other party, frankly. There doesn't seem to be much evidence to support that view.

zagubov

chewmylegoff wrote: »

By better quality do you mean lying self interested egotistical idiots? I can't see why anyone would believe the SNP are any better quality than any other party, frankly. There doesn't seem to be much evidence to support that view.

The voters seem to think very differently about that!
If only Cameron, Clegg or Brown could have won an election - but none of them did!:D

chewmylegoff

zagubov wrote: »

I'd be worried for the Spanish in case they haven't kept their receipt; they'd need it when they go back to London for any refunds:beer:

The Spanish fisherman who own rights to fish in British waters bought those rights from British fishermen in private transactions so there's no refund for anyone and their fishing rights would be unaffected should Scotland become independent.

chewmylegoff

zagubov wrote: »

The voters seem to think very differently about that!
If only Cameron, Clegg or Brown could have won an election - but none of them did!:D

Why does the fact that people voted for a party suggest that party's politicans are better quality?

When I vote, I vote for the party which best represents my interests (the Monster Raving Loony party). I wouldn't vote for a party which had policies that I disagreed with just because it had more competent people. That would be a really strange thing to do!

zagubov

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Why does the fact that people voted for a party suggest that party's politicans are better quality?

When I vote, I vote for the party which best represents my interests (the Monster Raving Loony party). I wouldn't vote for a party which had policies that I disagreed with just because it had more competent people. That would be a really strange thing to do!

All the parties here in England seem to offer identikit policies generally based on mimicing the US e.g taking on huge personal debt to reduce attractivenesss of collective bargaining, shrinking the state etc.

It's just turning into a confusing coontest of choosing the administrators of these identical policies and its obviously getting hard to identify whop's the best/leastt competent.:(

FTBFun

zagubov wrote: »

All the parties here in England seem to offer identikit policies generally based on mimicing the US e.g taking on huge personal debt to reduce attractivenesss of collective bargaining, shrinking the state etc.

Indeed - Ireland also followed the same track as well with pretty poor results. Thankfully the SNP have always distanced themselves from that approach, not for example referring to that country as being part of an "arc of prosperity" with an independent Scotland.