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  • barak
    barak Posts: 1,258 Forumite
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    .....The odd one or two sites that won't operate correctly with Opera I just select Firefox for those.....
    I also like Opera and still use it, but too many financial sites are not fully compatible - including HSBC, Coventry and other Building Societies, Santander's Cahoot and Marks & Spencer shopping for example.
    ".....where it is corrupt, purge it....."
  • zenmaster
    zenmaster Posts: 3,151 Forumite
    edited 21 October 2012 at 4:07PM
    Long term Opera user here. It's brilliant ...
    islandman wrote: »
    When I close and leave the desktop screen showing with view to returning in say half an hour, I click on the Opera icon to resume surfing, and a box appears, tell me that Opera is still closing and I'm given the option to "Force Start" which I do. What's that all about?
    ... except for this.
    Johnmcl7 wrote: »
    ... I'm finding version 12 terrible and close to going elsewhere due to the problems with the separate wrapper process. It's intended to improve compatibility on 64-bit systems but I find it's made Opera unstable and can burn through an impressive amount of resources (hitting 4GB at its worst).
    ... and this.
  • barak wrote: »
    I also like Opera and still use it, but too many financial sites are not fully compatible - including HSBC, Coventry and other Building Societies, Santander's Cahoot and Marks & Spencer shopping for example.

    Strange - I have accounts with First Direct (HSBC), Santander & Nationwide, which I use almost daily and these work fine with Opera.

    I do think that a lot of "blame" is heaped on Browsers when it should be aimed at the deluge of cookies that are thrown at you everytime you try and open a web page.
    Only this morning the Telegraph website was very slow - it was waiting for "something". I Googled the "something" and found , guess what ?? it was something from Google. Went in and zapped it - Telelgraph opens instantly now.
  • barak wrote: »
    I also like Opera and still use it, but too many financial sites are not fully compatible - including HSBC, Coventry and other Building Societies, Santander's Cahoot and Marks & Spencer shopping for example.

    Don't blame the browser. Blame the companies for still making websites that don't comply with web standards.
  • barak
    barak Posts: 1,258 Forumite
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    edited 16 October 2012 at 11:33PM
    Strange - I have accounts with First Direct (HSBC), Santander & Nationwide, which I use almost daily and these work fine with Opera...
    First Direct works, but with no apparent security. Do you get https://www2.firstdirect.com etc. when you logon to First Direct Internet Banking using Opera? I don't.

    My Santander cahoot account functions, but some page 'close' or 'return' buttons don't work as they should.

    One Building Society I use actually displays a message that the browser is incompatible with their system and Coventry BS have confirmed that Opera shouldn't be used.

    I accept that it is the website that needs to make it possible.
    ".....where it is corrupt, purge it....."
  • barak wrote: »
    First Direct works, but with no apparent security. Do you get https://www2.firstdirect.com etc. when you logon to First Direct Internet Banking using Opera? I don't.

    You don't get s on the "home page but as soon as you enter your user same and move onto the "password" area that is secure. As it is in a different window the s does not show - but if you watch carefully you will see it appear briefly as you progress through the procedure.
  • Gillor
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    barak wrote: »
    I also like Opera and still use it, but too many financial sites are not fully compatible - including HSBC, Coventry and other Building Societies, Santander's Cahoot and Marks & Spencer shopping for example.

    I use Opera from time to time and have no problem at all in accessing HSBC or Marks and Spencer - just tried it again to double check.

    The only problem I have with Opera is that it seems to be getting bloated lately, no more than IE, Chrome, or Firefox, but it did seem to be much more nimble at one time.

    For speed and minimum use of resources I much prefer Maxthon to any of the other browser I have tried and so far have not found any web site that has caused it a problem.

    However its not compatible with LastPass and WOT which makes it a no-no for me as my default browser, otherwise no contest as far as I am concerned.
  • custardy
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    Johnmcl7 wrote: »
    Opera has been my main browser for many years for its speed, features and integration although I'm finding version 12 terrible and close to going elsewhere due to the problems with the separate wrapper process. It's intended to improve compatibility on 64-bit systems but I find it's made Opera unstable and can burn through an impressive amount of resources (hitting 4GB at its worst).

    I've seen the same behaviour on different PCs and looking through the Opera forums it seems I'm not on my own with these issues, I'm really hoping they finally fix it on the next update.

    John


    had the same
    ended up having to do a fresh W7 install!
  • barak
    barak Posts: 1,258 Forumite
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    You don't get s on the "home page but as soon as you enter your user same and move onto the "password" area that is secure. As it is in a different window the s does not show - but if you watch carefully you will see it appear briefly as you progress through the procedure.
    That sounds a bit unusual - and it doesn't happen for me anyway, so I have to assume that my First Direct connection is not secure using Opera. I would have thought that the https should show all the time you are connected securely.

    Using Firefox the https appears immediately in the new window after clicking on Internet Banking - before I even enter my username - and stays there until I logoff. That seems to be the norm for financial sites.

    I don't think there are enough Opera users for HSBC to support it.

    See http://www.hsbc.co.uk/1/2/accessibility
    Range of browsers and operating systems that we support

    Browsers
    Internet Explorer 8
    Internet Explorer 7
    Firefox 3.0 and above
    Safari 4 and above
    Google Chrome

    Operating systems
    XP
    Vista
    Windows 7
    Mac OS X 10.4 and above
    ".....where it is corrupt, purge it....."
  • barak wrote: »
    That sounds a bit unusual - and it doesn't happen for me anyway, so I have to assume that my First Direct connection is not secure using Opera. I would have thought that the https should show all the time you are connected securely.

    Using Opera 12.02 and going to First Direct internet banking link on this page http://www2.firstdirect.com/1/2/banking takes me straight to this logon page https://www1.firstdirect.com/1/2/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN4o3DPIASYGYxqb6kWbxpvFOYSYQIYN4R4RIkH5BbmhEuaOiIgD6d5tp;jsessionid=0000RUJpCILJkA4Eis-VjLuuXsV:11jk52tf3 which is https.

    When I go to the HSBC accessibility link you provided and then click on the red logon button it goes to an https.

    When you try it, if you look on the LHS of the address bar you should see a green bar with "Trusted." Right click on the green bar and check "Show full web address." The 'Trusted' should change to a padlock and you should get the 'https.'
    604!
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