Woodburning stove recommendations please

Greenfires

Man_Overboard wrote: »

How do you cope with the stove which sits on the hearth in front of the fireplace with a short horizontal length of flue-pipe leading from the back of the stove into the fireplace?

Any stove installed like that should have a T piece fitted to the horizontal section, which should be as short as possible by the way. The bottom of the T should be fitted with a soot trap. Access to the chimney should be via a soot door in the vertical section of flue pipe, or you can often get under the stove and into the bottom of the T with the correct equipment.

Man_Overboard_2

Greenfires wrote: »

Any stove installed like that should have a T piece fitted to the horizontal section, which should be as short as possible by the way. The bottom of the T should be fitted with a soot trap. Access to the chimney should be via a soot door in the vertical section of flue pipe, or you can often get under the stove and into the bottom of the T with the correct equipment.

How much would you charge for such a complicated job?

Why wouldn't you just move the flickin stove?

Greenfires

Wouldn't charge any more than usual - that's the correct way of installing a stove like that, and you don't charge a customer extra for looking after something that's been put in right! You're only removing a couple of screws from the soot door or a clamp from the trap so there's nothing complicated about it. Also, moving the stove and then re-fitting it would technically mean I'd installed it, and I'm not HETAS registered so I ain't going there. Technically I could be held liable if there was a problem after I'd put it back in, and as I said, if it's installed in accordance with building regs, it should be able to be swept without moving anything.

muckybutt

Man_Overboard wrote: »

Do you know who did the original installation?

Did you walk away, or did you fix the problem by chopping in a sootbox?

It was a Hetas job fitted by them and supplied by them - yes I know them well, as I said I walked away from the job, I advised the custy to get back in touch with the installer - who didnt want to know.

Customer then got me involved again for tech help and got a builder in to install the soot box.

As Andy says a poor job and most sweeps will walk away, I have done many times for diy jobbies where it cannot be swept properly and thorougly as it should be. Aint worth the hassle if it goes Pete Tong and you were the last one to touch it.

Man_Overboard_2

muckybutt wrote: »

I walked away from the job, I advised the custy to get back in touch with the installer - who didnt want to know

As I have stated before, woodburning is best left in the realm of DIY!

muckybutt

Man_Overboard wrote: »

As I have stated before, woodburning is best left in the realm of DIY!

And there are plenty more of those I have walked away from, more so than Heatas job I have to say.

Greenfires

muckybutt wrote: »

And there are plenty more of those I have walked away from, more so than Heatas job I have to say.

I'd second that mate - whilst not every HETAS fitter is as good as the next, some DIY jobs are just frightening! Unlined chimney and no access through the register plate is the most common fault, followed by 90 degree outlets on rear flued stoves. Or those dreadful Clarke pot bellies inside a house - the ones with the flue outlet that is designed to self block and is so small you can't get anything through it - taking one out of a rented house next week as it happens. Oh, and I went to one rented house with a dog grate in a semi-inglenook fireplace - landlord had told the tenant it was fine to use. Chimney stack had a gas cowl where I was expecting the pot for this fireplace to be - and on looking up inside the chimney I could see the gas liner that was attached to it - propped up on a piece of wood a few feet up the chimney, presumably so the open end of it wouldn't dangle in the fireplace and look unsightly!! Presumably someone had been using the fire in this state - I wonder if they made it out alive?!!

wintersunseeker

Thanks for your comment - we do have a good supply of wood, and a modern oil fired system - just would like to see the stove back in use, but may have to buy a rayburn that uses wood instead. Terrible waste, though!

wrightk

funnily enough at my works premesis i was told they used to have a woodburner in two rooms which were adjacent and shared the same chimney and flue. sweep came in and refused to sweep it as by sweeping it he said he would be condoning the installation.

employer ripped it all out after that and got oil

Man_Overboard_2

wrightk wrote: »

funnily enough at my works premesis i was told they used to have a woodburner in two rooms which were adjacent and shared the same chimney and flue. sweep came in and refused to sweep it as by sweeping it he said he would be condoning the installation.

employer ripped it all out after that and got oil

It is very easy for a chimney sweep to walk away from a job he/she doesn't like the look of.

Most jobs take between 20-45 minutes (occasionally longer), and earn around £40 minimum.

There is no ongoing liability.