Cost of Food & Obesity Amongst Poorer People

gallygirl

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Fat doesn't necessarily make you fat, pasta does if you eat too much of it, so any diet that tells you that you can eat as much pasta as you want should be regarded with some suspicion. If you lost 3 stone eating that diet then I can only concluded that "as much pasta as you want" was "not very much pasta" in your case. If I ate as much pasta as I wanted I wouldn't be losing weight anytime soon...

Trust me - I eat a lot of pasta. I just don't cover it in oil, butter or pesto anymore . Home made tomato sauce anyone? With bacon (with the fat cut off )

Generali

breadlinebetty wrote: »

You need protein with those vegetables........you can't live on vegetables alone. Though you can neve eat too many vegetables in my opinion - I always have at least 7 different veggies with my Sunday roast for example : roast potatoes, roasted butternut squash, mashed carrots and parsnips, steamed broccoli, cauliflower and either cabbage, spring greens or peas - a whole rainbow of colour and taste!:)

As for eating foie gras - some people would lynch you for that! But it IS gorgeous...........:)

And pork crackling with gravy and apple sauce - oooh - temptation!:p

You're right, you can't just live off veggies but it's what people should mostly eat.

Everyone should try fois gras, if only to know what they're missing. It's delicious and not necessarily cruel.

In Aus, for no apparent reason, we are told to have 7 a day rather than 5: 5 veggies and 2 fruit.

Saturnalia

gallygirl wrote: »

What I was clumsily trying to say that if it takes a long and relatively expensive bus journey with a couple of kids in tow it's not easy to buy fresh stuff and cart it home, then there may not be enough room to store it etc. I wasn't for one minute trying to say that applies to all singke mothers - I'm one myself, as are my friends and when our kids were little we all cooked from scratch and served up healthy meals (aduki bean shepherds pie anyone ).

Gosh yes. There are quite a few supermarkets nearby but the only one on a bus route I can use to get home is just over a mile away - no problem for me to walk there but the bus back seems to take forever. For the other supermarkets it is no problem for me to take a big bag and carry my shopping home on my back (10-15 mins walk) but someone who isn't reasonably fit might not manage - and I'm only shopping for myself, I couldn't manage a week's family shop on my back. I might be about able to bear the weight but the volume would be too big.

And I'd really struggle trying to get a couple of kids and a family shop onto a bus. And paying 3 bus fares as well, especially if you want fresh goods so have to go a couple of times a week - I get why it would be easier to phone the takeaway or go to the corner shop.

Tiglath

Reminds me of an episode of Being Human where a ghost has to atone for his sins before he can cross over. One of the sins was telling Auntie Linda you can eat pasta on Atkins

Loughton_Monkey

breadlinebetty wrote: »

Just because someone is reasonably intelligent it doesn't mean to say they are of good behaviour, and don't suffer from weak-will and cravings.

That's complete nonsense to suggest that; it's borderirng on prejudice and arrogance.

A total misrepresentation of my post!

I specifically coupled 'intelligence' and 'behaviour'. Where do I suggest any correlation between those two? Read my post again. I coupled them as two seperate things that help to define how employable you might be. Intelligence and good behaviour. Intelligence or good behaviour.

It is not arrogance to suggest that someone who is reasonably intelligent and demonstrates reasonable behaviour is more likely to earn better salaries than someone who is both unintelligent and demonstrates unreasonable behaviour. I am not suggesting an absolute realtionship, just a tendancy. A correlation. Or are you suggesting differently?

As to those in the middle (i.e. intelligent but unreasonable behaviour, or unintelligent but reasonably behaved) I make no particular judgement, and nor did I in my post.

I usually choose my words quite carefully, and I stick by what I said. You are perfectly free to disagree.

Zero_Sum

breadlinebetty wrote: »

Neither do the richer areas!

Try buying a week's woth of veg in Waitrose for £3!:p

And farm shops are even more expensive!

Maybe some market stalls sell veg at rock bottom pices, but where on earth do you find them besides in Calcutta??

Don't most towns have a either a weekly market or permanment indoor marker? Failing that a local fruitier?

Fruit & Veg is probably the one thing where supermarkets are actually quite pricey. I always buy mine at a local indoor market, for much less.

Aldi also do Fruit & Veg at a good price (not much in the way of variety though)

michaels

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

A total misrepresentation of my post!

I specifically coupled 'intelligence' and 'behaviour'. Where do I suggest any correlation between those two? Read my post again. I coupled them as two seperate things that help to define how employable you might be. Intelligence and good behaviour. Intelligence or good behaviour.

It is not arrogance to suggest that someone who is reasonably intelligent and demonstrates reasonable behaviour is more likely to earn better salaries than someone who is both unintelligent and demonstrates unreasonable behaviour. [Wayne Rooney] I am not suggesting an absolute realtionship, just a tendancy. A correlation. Or are you suggesting differently?

As to those in the middle (i.e. intelligent but unreasonable behaviour, or unintelligent but reasonably behaved) I make no particular judgement, and nor did I in my post.

I usually choose my words quite carefully, and I stick by what I said. You are perfectly free to disagree.

It only takes one data point to disproove a theory

A._Badger

Generali wrote: »

You're right, you can't just live off veggies but it's what people should mostly eat.

Everyone should try fois gras, if only to know what they're missing. It's delicious and not necessarily cruel.

In Aus, for no apparent reason, we are told to have 7 a day rather than 5: 5 veggies and 2 fruit.

Be fair, General - your PM is a complete and utter moron. Do you believe much else that her government tells you?

adouglasmhor

breadlinebetty wrote: »

And what do you eat for potein?:cool:

You make that yoursen from spuds or barley, you need a still though.

adouglasmhor

A._Badger wrote: »

Be fair, General - your PM is a complete and utter moron. Do you believe much else that her government tells you?

But it helps keep the farmers in business.