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120,000 "trouble" (read as you will) families to get benefits on prepay cards
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This would actually reduce government revenue anyhow based on the amount of VAT/DUTY on booze and fags most of it ends up back in the governments pockets anyhow. Maybe they should just introduce a Sky and large TV tax as well? I'm all for increasing taxes on Booze/Fags/Sky TV etc (and I do drink a little and have a sky sub), these items are non-essentials by any stretch of the imagination but pricing them out of the average benefits claimants pocket would actually raise revenue.0
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Mallotum_X wrote: »The obvious problem with this is whether it also targets non problem families too.
A prepay card is only going to be accepted at places set up to accept it, i.e. larger retailers. So those on a limited budget who take advantage of markets or cheaper local shops will be forced to buy less at tesco.
Great for tesco etc not so good for those in need.
It's a restriction on trade. It's expensive to administer, and would not save the taxpayer a bean."An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".
!!!!!! is all that about?0 -
robin_banks wrote: »*Views unemployment figures*
Oh.
Doesn't mean there is no jobs.Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
Started third business 25/06/2016
Son born 13/09/2015
Started a second business 03/08/2013
Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/20120 -
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This would actually reduce government revenue anyhow based on the amount of VAT/DUTY on booze and fags most of it ends up back in the governments pockets anyhow. Maybe they should just introduce a Sky and large TV tax as well? I'm all for increasing taxes on Booze/Fags/Sky TV etc (and I do drink a little and have a sky sub), these items are non-essentials by any stretch of the imagination but pricing them out of the average benefits claimants pocket would actually raise revenue.
I also believe a luxury tax on non essentials would be good idea , with aim being to focus consumption, the question is what is a "luxury"?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
The best thing about this is it labels problem families.paying on smartcard? We all know what you are.
Could also be seen as a badge of honour.
It doesn't resolve the problem and will not save money."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
robin_banks wrote: »It means they're not that easy to get.......
Agreed, but it doesn't mean impossible either, if they really don't like they can go and get a job.Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
Started third business 25/06/2016
Son born 13/09/2015
Started a second business 03/08/2013
Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/20120 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »I also believe a luxury tax on non essentials would be good idea , with aim being to focus consumption, the question is what is a "luxury"?
EU law means we can only have 3 rates of VAT, we have 20% rate, 5% rate and of course zero rate.
There would be so many arguments ending up in court that this would simply be a non-starter.
The tax system needs to be simplified......."An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".
!!!!!! is all that about?0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Could also be seen as a badge of honour.
It doesn't resolve the problem and will not save money.
I bet it does when you consider the cost of treating alcohol and smoking related disorders and diseaseto the NHS.
Not to mention no one wants to employ a drunken bum. It's the first step towards getting these idiots back in work, preferably picking potatoes in the middle of winter.0
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